Windows 8 new look

[Bass]

Interesting ...

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/2817/


[oops - fixed link]

[senorblinky]

Interesting ...

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/2817/ (https://webmail.sdt.co.za/owa/redir.aspx?C=a9d271e85d2348c9af8f7f5b77618820&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.viddler.com%2fexplore%2fengadget%2fvideos%2f2817%2f)

If i click on that link, i get this message:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/al1101/Untrustedconnection.png

[Badapple]

Why are they making us jump through hoops when we follow the link?
I first had a chrome security warning, then some outlook login thing, then gave up :shrug:

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Nice background blinks, looking forward to spring? :D

[EyeBall]

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/2817/

This is the link ,

I hate Microsoft for bringing out new OS quicker than Obama changing his underwear ..... :mad:

It's an apple conversion lol ...... how original from Microsoft

[Arbythep00nage]

so its like a frontend for windows7 then. Its the whole theme they are using on windows phone.

[senorblinky]

Why Windows 8 Is Fundamentally Flawed as a Response to the iPad (http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/windows_8_fundamentally_flawed)

[Bass]

Oops - sorry about the bad link - I access my mail from IE from home, so it brought all the forwarding stuff along when I pasted the link :slap:

[Flatty]

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/2817/

This is the link ,

I hate Microsoft for bringing out new OS quicker than Obama changing his underwear ..... :mad:

It's an apple conversion lol ...... how original from Microsoft

Just because they're changing, doesn't mean you have to. I was on XP right up until last year - not a bad run for an 8 year old OS. I think MS will find it hard to shift people from Windows 7 to 8, though people on XP who want to use the latest software are going to find it hard not to change.

[EyeBall]

My Biggest problem is that supplier do not sell the older OS versions , so as soon as win 8 is out we won't be able to get win 7 anymore ...... Can't sell new computers with old win 7 , clients want the latest and the greatest even if it's not.

I never like having a site of 80 odd computers running on different OS's but supplier and MS is forcing you to do it.

Fun Fun Fun

[Jono]

My Biggest problem is that supplier do not sell the older OS versions , so as soon as win 8 is out we won't be able to get win 7 anymore ...... Can't sell new computers with old win 7 , clients want the latest and the greatest even if it's not.

I never like having a site of 80 odd computers running on different OS's but supplier and MS is forcing you to do it.

Fun Fun Fun

Apparently Windows 7 SP1 32bit has some major compatibility issues so our company was told to send them back until MS has sorted things out. Well our sales director came up with this so how true/serious this really is, we don't know. :p

[TG]

Geez. Windows 8 looks like a massive irritation to me.

[GeroW4lll]

They better fix it. Most of my work is still on XP. Win7 is not as popular as expected, even if it beats Vista. I'm still finding equipment that isn't compatible with 7. My dad bought a new scanner even if his old one is still perfectly fine, cause of driver compatibilities, just last week. If 8 isn't something special, it will take ages before it has general adoption in the market. An I don't mean just for the graphics lovers.

[Flatty]

My Biggest problem is that supplier do not sell the older OS versions , so as soon as win 8 is out we won't be able to get win 7 anymore ...... Can't sell new computers with old win 7 , clients want the latest and the greatest even if it's not.

I never like having a site of 80 odd computers running on different OS's but supplier and MS is forcing you to do it.

Fun Fun Fun

80 computers, you say? Surely a company that size would have a volume license agreement with Software Assurance? Perhaps it's time to start educating your clients on the options available because there is no reason to run 80 computers with different OS's when they can be upgraded automatically as part of the volume license, just a thought.

[TG]

80 computers, you say? Surely a company that size would have a volume license agreement with Software Assurance? Perhaps it's time to start educating your clients on the options available because there is no reason to run 80 computers with different OS's when they can be upgraded automatically as part of the volume license, just a thought.

Why would a company with 80 computers have a volume license w/ software assurance when a bank with around 800 computers can't be bothered to do it?

[Bass]

:eek: That doesn't make much sense. Having said that, I don't know the ins & outs & pricing of software assurance.

It surely would make sense for a large organisation to look into it though .. ?

[Flatty]

Why would a company with 80 computers have a volume license w/ software assurance when a bank with around 800 computers can't be bothered to do it?


:eek: That doesn't make much sense. Having said that, I don't know the ins & outs & pricing of software assurance.

It surely would make sense for a large organisation to look into it though .. ?

Well, regardless of whether you take the volume license with, or without, Software Assurance, it still makes sense to have a volume license. Software Assurance has a lot of benefits, including the license to upgrade all desktop OS & Office programs to the latest version, simplifying version management & deployment. Depending on the type of license you have, you can also spread payments, reducing large capital outflows at any one time. There are pros & cons to everything, of course, but there are cases where Software Assurance makes sense.

Link: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/software-assurance/default.aspx

[senorblinky]

Let's see what it looks like in a year. But i still have questions, for instance, we all know that a player in the market might revolutionise an idea, and while that idea is exclusive at first, it's adopted as best practice moving forward. An example? Why yes, Airbags. Back in the days of yor, only fancy BMWs and Mercs had them, now they're pretty much standard.
What point am I trying to make? Well, just considering some of the tech "best practice" guidelines that we've seen in the past couple of months (maybe the past year), it's strange not to see some of those ideas as part of the Windows 8 concept. I mean, they haven't even really started and they're already behind.

Then again, it wouldn't be Microsoft if that wasn't the case.

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Maybe I should ask this question, and i sincerely hope we have a few apple enthusiasts among us - how much has the Apple OS changed over the past couple of versions? I mean, do they build on an existing idea and make it better, or do they overhaul it everytime?

[doobiwan]

The question isn't about now, it's about what happens next.

Android Tab, and iPads are all limited by both input and performance, so it's easy to call them "lite" consumption devices. The thing is, by next year we'll be seeing quad core 1.8Ghz+ arm CPUs - the tablets of the future will be as powerful as average modern desktops. So that then begs the question: what is a tablet? A tablet is just a very personal computer. Yes just a PC. So if you want to do PC things on it why shouldn't you be able too?

Think about it like this: If Microsoft developed a standalone tablet developers would have to redevelop their apps for the platform from the ground up. Look at Adobe on iOS - you get touch companion apps because porting Photoshop doesn't make sense. BUT if MS uses plain old windows underneath, it means you have access to the full adobe engine, you just need a "Jupiter" themed touch skin. (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/more-on-microsoft-jupiter-and-what-it-means-for-windows-8/8373)

Just because apps can run in Legacy Windows mode doesn't mean they should, they should be redesigned, it's like running an app in a DOS box compared to a native Windows app. But it's good to have the option.

[Flatty]

The push is toward mobile computing, and not only on tablets - they want cellphones to replace desktops. If you think about it realistically, it's a goal easily achievable in the next ten years, especially with Intel's new 3D transistors, if not less - just look at what has happened in the last ten years. In ten years we'll be able to walk into a room and load into the game on the large HD screen on the wall and join the foray, all with our mobile. They'll include the GPU in the screen, with the ability to handle multiple clients, with our mobiles acting as independent client CPU's.

It's not something I am looking forward to, because I like my old-faithful, I like my space, I like my anonymity. On the other hand, it might make us more (physically) sociable gamers, which could be a good thing since nothing beats genuine one-on-one human interaction. Strange times indeed. :p

[doobiwan]

Put this in a Windows 8 context
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/samsung-series-7-convertible-tablet-coming-soon/5687

@Flatty - I presume you saw the "Wii U", your future is closer than you think ;)

[Flatty]

Put this in a Windows 8 context
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/samsung-series-7-convertible-tablet-coming-soon/5687

@Flatty - I presume you saw the "Wii U", your future is closer than you think ;)

Not actually, but when they start messing with my PC I'll start getting upset - I have no interest at all in gaming consoles & their prohibitively expensive games and accessories.

[TG]

All the Wii U demo footage was taken from xbox & ps3 versions of the games. Doh.

[Flatty]

Just watched this video again - everyone can afford a 40" touchscreen, can't we? Douchebags.

[TotalWar]

Was thinking the same thing Flatty, now everyone is going to want one on there desk. I like how they say still works great with a mouse and keyboard.

Hello if it does not work like that then you have just FAILED!!!!!!

At least with this software you can tell the user please replace your finger if you can not scroll through the apps.

Personally I do not like the start tiles.

[Flatty]

Yeah, I have 17" touch screens going for R2295 excl. No ways I am going back to that. Nothing irritates me more than fingerprints on my screen, zero logic, Microsoft - the hardcore component of the PC using populace probably feel the same way. We want bigger and better, not smaller.