Well I think I definitely borked something up!

[Stool]

Help me out here guys if you can

So the problem started when I told windows xp home too shutdown..... and it did a reset:confused: . SO i told it to go do a reset and well it did that right at least. Then from the fresh startup i told it too do a shut down and there it went and resets again......


got up too brush my teeth and tried one last shutdown and wouldnt u know it resets again soooooo (sss this might interest you since u have the same) i decided i have no time for this and hit the HARD power switch on the back of my powersupply.... computer just keeps on bootin up:eek: :confused: :confused: :confused: :eek: . btw i toggled that switch once per sec just too make sure it not a loose connection....

/me thinks his computer now has a life of its own.

now hopefully someone in this grooup can help me out cos i dont wanna start looking for receipts

plz help me out of this annoyin lil problem

cheers
stool

[fivel]

Stool, how far does it get in the boot process? Does it make any strange beeping sounds when booting....if it does it may be the BIOS telling you something is wrong.

I would suggest you try and provide a bit more info as to what motherboard you have, ram etc and what appears on the screen if anything.

[stoke]

Quick test - unplug the network connection and then shut it down.
If it does not boot then it must be the WakeOnLan setting:
- In BIOS - find the WakeOnLan setting there soemwhere and turn it off.
Then locate the program that turned it on and smack it.

Or ... it's not that.

[Stool]

No see booting up it does perfectly ,right into windows and i play games over my adsl and the network card always sees the adsl router so all is gr8. No bios beeps at all and pc functions great except when you decide that's it for the day and you want to shut it down.

Now it just does a reset (on shut down) but i suspect its not shutting down (closing programs) properly. I cant tell because when i boot up i dont get a dialogue telling me that "windows did not shut down properly do u want to start in safe mode". Hell it might shut the OS down just fine its just too fast for me too notice and its not like i really timed its shut down in the past.

The thing that perplexes me the most of all is the supposed "hard" power switch on the rear of my power supply. Thats supposed control all power to the system and essentially isolate it from the grid so why the heck is the thing still drawing juice and booting up? Did i miss a meeting on power supply design?

At the end of the day its not a serious issue, i was just curious if anyone have seen the same. Yet did the thread cos i hope it doesnt get any worse.

The spec of the machine is
AMD 3500+ 1GB ram
same gigabyte board sss runs
running windows xp home

will hunt the bios tonight for the wake on setting but pretty sure i switched them all off last time

thx for the input so far btw
cheers

[stoke]

*sigh* ... did you try to shut it down with the network cable unplugged ?
Did you ?
Hu hu hu ?

[rainy]

Sounds to me as if soemthign is causing a bluescreen when shutting down, but Windows is set to immediately reset. Are you getting a 'The system recovered from a serious error' message when rebooting?

[Stool]

sorry stoke no i didnt, i said i'd get to that tonight.
reason being i am working on campus now and will only see the tin can again tonight when i get back home.
[stoke edit:oops : sorry dude ... I thought you had tried my suggestion .. heppologies]

[Stool]

not gettin any reports
just rembered now that i can go have a look in the events manager,maybe some clues there, no blue screens tho,unless its too quick for my eyes

[rainy]

Event manager is a good idea. If you don't find anything conclusive, purge the log and then shut down. Will make it easier to sift through whatever happens after the next bootup.

[Albereth]

It might be related to an incomplete update from Security Centre or even your antivirus programme. Perhaps even adobe reader.

You might want to try running something like Registry Mechanic to hunt down and clear out any residual junk.

Just my 2 cents worth - although it may not even be worth that much.

[slogger_1]

Hey Stool,

If you switch the isolator switch off at the back of the PSU, and the machine still powers on, then the switch is obviously not isolating the circuit. Maybe your PSU has had it? Perhaps try with a PSU from another machine temporarily. At least then you will know if it's the PSU or not.

[doobiwan]

When you say "reset" do you mean it's "restarting" as in windows is happy la la but just reboots, or reset as in like someone instantly hit the reset button?

There may be a switch in the bios to disable software power management.

[sss]

you'll have to excuse the stool... he dont listen no good!

stool.. do a bios reset!

[{lostmarble}]

I agree wiff Alb, there's also a free util that I use, quite nifty, just RTFS before u click on ok :)

www.ccleaner.com

[Alluvium]

i would do these steps

check to see if anything is fusking out your pc (program wise) end all the no essential tasks in task manager and then try turn off

last known good XP config

bios defaults

check for adware/spyware/viruses

[stoke]

Methinks he borked it up even further and can no longer get online ... :p

[rainy]

Or he's trying every advice one by one... :D

[stoke]

Or .. he's lying in cumfy bed sleeping like a log blissfully unaware of it all ... :p

[Stool]

ignorance is bliss
tryin it all now before i head to campus

[Stool]

@fivel: no bios beeps when booting,nice simple n quiet as it should be
@stoke:reloaded bios defaults,also made sure all my wake-on events disabled,
also removed network card and disbled network card but none of it changed anything

i think rainynight is on the money, i'm calling them "blue screen resets" cos honestly the bluescreen doesnt hang around for me to read it and i aint fast enuf on the pause break key too stall the damn thing. this morning for the 1st time i got 'The system recovered from a serious error' message.

this led me back to the event viewer,had a look and it complained bout a bad block on my d drive..... scandisk it and it told me no bad blocks on d drive grrrrrrr (btw d drive not a 2nd partition but a completely other hdd with ntfs partition on it)
so i cleared the logs and caused another blue screen reset (by askin it too shutdown) and went back in to the log viewer and it still complained about a bad block and told me one of my new programs (matlab-mathematical program) ended prematurely.so i thought stuff i dont need it right now so uninstall that thing,infact uninstall everythin new that caught my eye.the only thing that did was .net framework 2.0. i recall 1.1 was in security update list but 2.0 was optional so i told windows to unistall 2.0 and wouldnt u know it.... half way thru the uninstall i got a blue screen reset.
so now i'm gonna take everything out of the task manager for the last try and i see daemon tools still has an image loaded,i tell daemon to have 0 devices so i can unload it properly, it asks me if im sure and i say yes, booom another blue screen reset.

other things that happened in the last 2 weeks that i thought was unrelated is my guild wars dat file got corrupted and my dvd writer takes 50min to write at 8x,on top of that the dvd seems to be corrupted even tho my pc verification said it was fine.

sss meanwhile has shown me where to deselect the restart option (on System failure) so i can view the blue screen atleast.
i doubt it will tell me much

needless to say i have reached my effort limit with this thing,gonna reinstall with XP pro first chance i get,cos it seems to me like the hardware and xp home crossed lines somewhere.
one thing that still bugs the hell out of me is why would a "rocking" power switch on the back of my power supply not cut the power,that just insane!

well thats where it stands,if you have a miracle cure then by all means let me know bout it,otherwise im just takin it back to sss to reinstall with sumthin decent

cheeers and thx again
stool

[rainy]

Bad block on the harddrive... You might want to back up everything and replace the drive completely.

[sss]

note how i now get stuck with the [-]shit[/-] stool

[stoke]

Fixit SSS. Dammit ! And stop breaking all the stuffs.

[sss]

now i'm gonna have stool wondering around my house... standing on stuff... probly my new 50" plasma

[stoke]

Bragging rights completely reserved eh sss ?

[sss]

oh just wait.. gonna really extend my e-penis on the sgs forums.. when i post a pic saying " so how do u play bf2 ?"

[TG]

Well as soon as you have the e-penis sticking out, I'm sure ass ass will show up somewhere all beggin' an' stuffs.

He'll be like...

Like... awww... sss... can I touch it?? Huuhh huuhhhh?

And you'll be like...

Nooo.. gerrafarkoff me ass!

[stoke]

Damn man ... your field of vision is gonna be hextremely wide.
/me ponders that for a moment.
/me stops pondering.

[sss]

i'll probably do it for kicks.. then move the pc upstairs again!

then laugh as i hear stool swearing cause his pc is still running

at least when stool comes over you dont need to bring a monitor anymore

[Stool]

cool, but id still have to bring my stool,some day hopefully you'll get excited about buying some furniture.....

maybe its your wireless network thingy,since i added that software it all went downhill :P

[Darnit696]

...Hmmm it still restarts when you have switched the rocker switch on the back of the PSU... Well now pull the plug from the wall... If it still reboots dont worry about it... phone the blokes what do copyrights and stuff cause you're onto something BIG in the power saving department.








:p

[Stool]

anyways seems this primary hdd is just slowly fallin apart on me.

i dunno what the issue is with the power supply tho,some tit obviously hardwired the thing.

[sss]

/me doesnt want to point fingers at any specific tit!