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rainy
13th November 2006, 10:39 AM
Here's in short fashion what I like and dislike about BF2142.

Like

The game seems more balanced. Less spawnraping, less being squashed by heavy vehicles, no über-powerful jets that ruin the game for the groundpounders.

One can actually try and fly those gunships - less difficult than in BF2.

The points system - I like the carreer points and the away bonus. Playing in a squad is now actually worthwhile, with the bonus points and the field upgrades. Also, vehicle kills don't accrue to kit kills anymore - no more armorhogging to get your badges.

Dislike

DOGTAGS!!! They turn good players into slobbering idiots who forfeit every team effort to get as many knife kills as possible so they can show off how leet they are. Pathetic, and it spoils the game for others. There is virtually no defense againsgt a knifer who is right on top of you - these blerry things kill from 2 meters away.

Randomness - the hitbox model is still quite random. Sometimes you struggle to land a hit for a whole round, then the next round you land headshots all the time.

Still can't manually create favorites for the server list - UT anyone?

Claymores have been nerfed. Every idiot can get past them now. Snipers can't cover their backs anymore because the enemy virtually has to stomp past a claymore to set it off. Normal walking will get you past most of the time.

Thats the long and short of it for now. Will add more when I can think of some.

stoke
13th November 2006, 10:46 AM
There seems to be a maximum amount of favourite servers.
That's the dumbest thing i have ever ever heard in my life.

I agree with your hitbox observation, though I will also add that if you hesitate to get your kills in at the start of the round, then you end up on the bottom of the scoreboard where we all know the game treats you like an imbecile. So .. id say that the game gives even more preference to high scorers than before.

SaintMg
13th November 2006, 11:48 AM
i agree wif that stoke the game does give the top player more preferance

cause like i suck and the other night i was pwning and it was all cause i got a few kills quickly in the round and somehow just managed to stay on top but then we were in a gr8 squad and peeps were following orders and sticking together and for the first time i played as a real squad leader not dying and hanging back placing spawn becons if i know i was going to die and then destroying it and moving it up closer to the target area.... wow that kid was some what amusing in the begining :D

TG
13th November 2006, 11:49 AM
So .. id say that the game gives even more preference to high scorers than before.

I disagree with that. I've joined a game near the end of the round, and very quickly proceeded to the top 3 for the team. I've done it a few times, so it's definitely not a fluke. Admittedly, it entirely depends on what you get up to - and that's based on kills - not any kind of padding).

I do have REALLY kak rounds - more often that not (f@#@@ urban server).

Albereth
13th November 2006, 12:32 PM
The LMG sorts out knifetards. I don't think that I have been second in a fight with some knife wielding homicidal maniac while I've had the LMG. I also think the shot gun ruins their days too.

They ought to have the ability for you to claim the tags off the knife guy if he doesn't succeed.

Eyewitness
13th November 2006, 02:25 PM
One can actually try and fly those gunships - less difficult than in BF2.

If you say so, I used to be able to fly them, in bf2142 I can't last 15 seconds before I've crashed.
But then again a friend of mine couldn't last 15 seconds in the bf2 gunship, then I invite him to my house to play some bf2142 online (his graphics card blew before 2142 came out and he's still waiting for a refund) his first time playing, and all of a sudden he's pulling wicked stunts flying all over the place. :cool:

I can fly the transport very well though, I've got lots of road kills in those, I once landed and killed two people! Granted one was a teamie trying to knife the other one (he looked like an enemy to me :p ), but still!

Thumponius
13th November 2006, 03:56 PM
I end up flying the gunship like the BF2 chopper.

Ever tried re-inverting after flying around upside down for 10 minutes? I agree with Albie, that LMG really ruins a knifer's moment. Except when certain clannies got me.

Eyewitness
13th November 2006, 04:12 PM
How do you fly upside down for ten minutes :confused: How do you fly for ten minutes :confused: :p

Moerdyk
13th November 2006, 04:41 PM
I enjoy both games and i enjoy the titan,because you have the close quater battles in the titan and long range,armour flying thingies also.
Just when there's lag and disconnection that i start to prefer BF2 again

JAWS_Firefox
13th November 2006, 04:56 PM
@ Rainy,

When EA brings up the list of available servers, there's a lot of symbols on the lefthand side, including a "+" sign. Clicking on that makes that server a Favourite.

(Tks, Alb, for pointing this out to me last Fri.)

stoke
13th November 2006, 05:26 PM
Yea .. but the damn list can only contain like 10 favourites. I need like 12. :grr:

Thumponius
13th November 2006, 05:41 PM
@Witness: the flying's easy. It's landing the sucker is a bit of a barsteward. Reloading's not that bloody easy either.

Eyewitness
13th November 2006, 05:51 PM
Well, I guess I'll just have to practise, but first I have to reinstall bf2142, titan mode crashes to the desktop after about 5minutes, I'm hoping a reinstall will fix the problem, titan mode has always done this, it was working yesterday though :confused: anyway, lets hope I get it working soon.

Alluvium
13th November 2006, 09:07 PM
likes

the knife
the game is balanced to a T that is what i think they spent alot of the time doing with the beta.

the maps are also very well made and very well balanced, you dont normally get the same choke points all the time, it plays very freely

awesome game

dislikes

the knife hitboxing needs to be fixed im sick of sitting on some ones head and needing 5 stikes to hit him with a knife. also

jumping over shield and sentry guns should be easy but is FREAKING IMPOSSABLE. (in titan)



um rainy, knife welding crazies are easy to take care of that good Ol pistol will sort them out. one time (or maybe two time)


I do like the fact th dogtags were added it deff adds an extra dimention to the game, and i have found myself HAVING to use my knife several dozen times during a fight. in bf2 it was like just somthing ammusing to do to an enemy.



HOW TO DEAL WITH THE LMG GUNNER..

you want to try knife him, aproach him, as soon as he starts firing, RUN AROUND LIKE A CRAZY CRAZY man DO NOT RUN AT HIM run around him. that lmg will soon overheat and thats when you go for your kill, takes some practise, but over all works great for me.

TG
13th November 2006, 11:00 PM
Or do what I did with Wonda just now - she caught me [-]with my pants down[/-] with an EMP grenade in hand. So I chucked it at her, then lunged in for the kill with the knife. Success ;)

Albereth
14th November 2006, 12:21 PM
I don't like the fact that sometimes the spawning doesn't happen and you have to go and reselect a spawn point (although it is exactly the same) and hit DONE again.

I don't like the commander interface - it just doesn't update the zoom capability properly. You need to click a few times to choose the centre point of your zoom. And then when in zoom it doesn't move along when you reclick a centre spot like in BF2

I think this game was developed around the time of the 1.1 BF2 patch and nobody thought to see what lessons had been learnt.

Plus side - it has sort of fun factor because of the topic abstraction.

FeralBanana
14th November 2006, 12:24 PM
One thing I LOATH about the spawning:

If you spawn on a spawn beacon, (especially in titan mode) it becomes nigh IMPOSSIBLE to spawn (anywhere) again as soon as you die... Blerrie irritating :(

Albereth
14th November 2006, 12:24 PM
How to deal with a knifetard when you have the LMG. Wait. He is going to run around like crazy and when he is tired you can shoot him.

Moerdyk
15th November 2006, 11:31 AM
i would prefer if the spawn beacon was invisible to enemies. being nailed like that just aint fun anymore. :(

SaintMg
16th November 2006, 08:49 AM
and it would be nice to know if it is a teamies spawn becon or an enamy

and why if i spawn on the becon in the titan di i just appear there and if im out side then i fall from miles in the sky screeming like a girl so everyone know where i am :confused:

i agree becon should not be visable to enamy unless otherwise spotted ...

while im here i hate how retarded my soldier is a flight of stairs is easy enough to climb but a little step or fringe on the floor and the idiot getz stuck ... and the other night i jump over some boxes and was stuck on top and could not move think it was at church not sure the map ...

/rant

Moerdyk
16th November 2006, 08:55 AM
The first time i fell out the sky like that, i nearly made a mistake in my pants and destroyed the space bar on my keyboard. Had nightmares of skydiving without a parachute after that.:eek:

SaintMg
16th November 2006, 09:34 AM
something weird happened last night after the agasa match i podded out of the titan and landed on an APC i thought woot my first pod kill comming up but as i was about to hit the deck someone else podded out of the apc and took me out trust my luck (todate no pod kills :( )

TG
16th November 2006, 09:36 AM
:rofl:
It IS quite entertaining though - specially when you bean the enemy who is trying to destroy your beacon.

I managed to land on Stokes head last night doing just that - I think during practise ;)

TG
16th November 2006, 09:38 AM
something weird happened last night after the agasa match i podded out of the titan and landed on an APC i thought woot my first pod kill comming up but as i was about to hit the deck someone else podded out of the apc and took me out trust my luck (todate no pod kills :( )

Titan mode is the best for this - especially when the titan has been moved near some convenient silos. You can pod out of the titan and you have decent control so you can guide yourself onto enemies. It's quite difficult though, but I've managed to get a couple of pod kills like that.

Albereth
16th November 2006, 09:47 AM
I nailed Prisma

TG
16th November 2006, 11:09 AM
I nailed Prisma

I sure hope you used a prophylactic.

Albereth
16th November 2006, 12:13 PM
Nope - used the entire pod. I had even pasted sandpaper on the exterior. The turkey had podded onto a tall tower to can like to be a sniper. He had assumed the postion - I just paid a surprise visit

WAJKILLER2
17th November 2006, 01:05 PM
I played it for the first time last night, intersting game.

Likes
I like the balancing, its quite nice. Although this morning i saw the assault guys doing their usual stacking but its to no avail.
The tactics are for more complicated and it requires teamwork to achieve anything. The vehicles are strangely manouverable and is quite easy to take out. The overall maps are well done and looks cool.

Dislikes.
The titan mode sucks. LAG LAG LAG. Very boring throughout. The usual assholes park with the attack chopper underneath the titan to continue spawnraping. There are countless number of people statspadding on the titan guns and doing nothing usefull. I found teamwork in the titan mode to be non existant. The lag makes titan fights almost impossable.
You have to really look hard to be able to see whether its an enemy or friend. SUCKS. The guns are bloody useless and it seems it works on random hits. Quite funny when you think you hit nothing and all of sudden you see that you have two killed two oakes that you didnt even know were there and the actuall peep you were shooting at in the firsst place is still running around.
Overall i think the game is a very lame attempt from ea. Its not nearly as much fun as bf2. Even the same double reaload shit exists. The armour are very weird for a futeristic battle.
The game seems more like a mod and a poor piss ass job at it too. The modders can do a better job in their free time than a huge company doing it full time. The awards come up as a piss willy message and caries no weight at all. I couldnt care for any awards, no kick in getting one.

I will play it for a while and see if i can start liking it. So far, i think its a bloody waist of money. Ill see ya on the battlefield and i will try not to bitch and moan too much.

Brawler
17th November 2006, 01:33 PM
the disconnects get on my nerves

Alluvium
17th November 2006, 06:40 PM
Titan mode is the best for this - especially when the titan has been moved near some convenient silos. You can pod out of the titan and you have decent control so you can guide yourself onto enemies. It's quite difficult though, but I've managed to get a couple of pod kills like that.

another fun thing , POID out the titan and nail incoming transport ships :p

FeralBanana
18th November 2006, 10:20 AM
Lol I was in a fully loaded one yesterday when some silly man did that to me :grr: :p

Eyewitness
19th November 2006, 01:15 PM
I do that a lot (its fun :p ) one time after hitting a gunship i landed on an enemy walker, it didnt kill it, but the enemy tank shooting at me did! :D

WAJKILLER2
21st November 2006, 11:25 AM
Starting to get into it. The guns really suck. Good thing is i havent seen much of the assault aswsholes around.

StaticS
21st November 2006, 11:40 AM
Hmm my likes and dislikes with BF2142 are as follows:

Likes:
1. The titan maps!
2. Battle walkers
3. Its a new Battlefield.

Dislikes:
1. Lag on the titan servers (This happens with full servers)
2. [-]assault[/-] :p
3. The way it chows my cap :mad: (although this happens with all BF's )

Brawler
21st November 2006, 01:47 PM
havent seen much of the assault aswsholes around.

it seems as if the asault blokes have got there top ranks already and are now bored of the game, dont play it as often.

Brawler
21st November 2006, 01:49 PM
oh yes, when the server crashed for the millionth time yesterday, it gave me a BSOD(something about memory dumping?). Thats the first one my pc has ever givin me trust 2142 to break it :/