View Full Version : Using local bandwidth for gaming without routesentry. save some money Fallenangel
sss
3rd January 2008, 02:31 PM
That woman told me something crazy the other night, she bought about 10 gigs of saix bandwith so they could continue to game at a price of about R700.
So thats nuts.....
So lets start with what we are going to try achieve.
We will have two accounts running, 1 local and 1 int. All default traffic will goto the int account and certain traffic we specify will goto the local account.
I have deciced to use the 1 gig telkominternet account as local and 3 gig TI as int.
The reason is cause they are saix accounts ,rather reliable and at the moment you get unlimited local on them(until end of Jan , where you will get 10 gigs local for a 1 gig TI account)
For our purposes we will think of the TI 1 gig account as LOCAL ONLY and the TI 3GB account as INT only
Ok now there are a few different ways to set this up as follows.
TG
3rd January 2008, 02:46 PM
/me thinks sss hit "Post" before he was done typing... :p
sss
3rd January 2008, 02:51 PM
Using hardware .(this looks complex but is a nice solution to understand)
Ok so this is my current setup at home.
I have an adsl router working in bridge mode(no pppoe connection, no adsl details), connected to a plain 5 port hub, then i have to wrt54g's connected to the hub on their WAN ports.
........................................................ /(wan port)wrt54g1---\
--phone line--adsl router(bridge mode)--hub.............................|
.........................................................\(wan port)wrt54g2---/
............................................................................. / | \
............................................................................. pc pc pc
I then have all my pc's plugged into the wrt54g's, and the wrt54g's connected to each other on the lan side.
Now WRT1(192.168.1.1) has the INT account loaded on it
and WRT2(192.168.1.2) has the LOCAL account loaded on it.
On my pc if i have my gateway and dns set to the ip address of WRT1 then i will have normal INT access.
If I change the gateway and dns to the ip address of WRT2 then I will be on local only.
What I want to do is set my pc so that its gateway and dns are set to that of WRT1, great so everything is working over my INT connection. Then on my pc I now add some explicit routing for certain ip address's ( Bascially telling my pc that if i'm connecting to the SGS servers then go through WRT2)
I open up the cmd prompt on my pc and type
"route add 196.4.79.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.2"
What this tells my pc is that any trafic going to 196.4.79.*(sgs servers) must be route through WRT2.
I can then game away.
The advantage of this solution is on the entire network there are only 2 pppoe connections established and for any pc i can add a route depending on what i want it to do.
My laptops defauly gateway and dns are WRT2 cause all i want it to do is download for local newsservers.
It requires alot of hardware which I doubt many of you have but it makes it easier to play with and theres barely any funny stuff to play with, no custom wrt54g scripts , no funny installs on windows etc etc.
sss
3rd January 2008, 03:03 PM
Ok now a much more simpler mode, if you have 1 pc and half bridge router.
What you do is setup your router into half bridge mode( how you do this is router specific so don't ask me).
Once its setup logon to your router and in it add the LOCAL only account, from your pc
try access local if it works then great.
Now to test the half bridge, on your pc open up the network settings ,
click "create new connection" ,
select " connect to the internet" ,
select "set up my connection manually" ,
select "connect using a broadband connection that requires a username and password"
enter your INT account details and finish up.
Now try open the connection and if it works then your half bridge is working.
When this connection is open all your traffic will be going over your INT account, when closed it will go over your LOCAL account.
What you need to do once this connection is running is add a route to tell the pc to send that local traffic back to the local account
Open up the cmd prompt on then pc and type
"route add 196.4.79.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1" presuming your routers ip address is 192.168.1.1
and that should work tip top
Disadvantages of this method are that each pc has to establish a pppoe connection
sss
3rd January 2008, 03:16 PM
Now for you people with lots of pc's and xbox's and all that crap you need to extend it some more.( This is a XP solution cause most people look the other way when linux is mentioned)
Easiest way is to setup a dedicated gateway machine.
Install xp on a dedicated machine.
Install wingate( i have a specific version that i'll check for later)
This turns the machine into a gateway, now all your other pc's and xboxs must set their gateway and dns to the ip of this machine.
Now if you have a half bridge modem you then setup this machine as the above post.
If you don't have a half bridge modem then you need to instal RASPPPOE on the machine, once RASPPPOE has been installed you then add BOTH INT and LOCAL accounts, once both are setup in wingate you can go add the route rules to specify
"All default traffic to use INT account"
"Traffic destined for 196.4.79.* to use Local account"
sss
3rd January 2008, 03:21 PM
Note that adding routes using the "route add" command will only temporarily add that route, it will dissapear if your network gets disconnected or you close and repopen a ppoe connection or you restart the pc.
To make the entry persistent you use the
"route -p add ......."
"route delete *" also removes all the routes
i've only added the sgs servers to the above routes but u can go add all the ZA local ip ranges so when u xbox to friends etc etc it will all be local
just add multiple routes eg.
"route add 196.4.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 192.168.1.1"
"route add 41.0.0.0 mask 255.0.0.0 192.168.1.1"
and on and on
I'll add more info when i get home and get more details
"route print" will show you your current routing table
sss
3rd January 2008, 03:26 PM
i've scribbled all this inbetween work and having ppl talk to me, so i'll go over and add more to clear things up later, gotta work
sss
3rd January 2008, 03:29 PM
There's also the quick n dirty ways.
Logon to router, put in INT account, start bf2 up, get onto server selection screen. Tab out bf2, enter LOCAL details into router, tab back into BF2 and play.
Flangenimblick
3rd January 2008, 03:34 PM
so confused... :confused:
im moving into a new place at the end of jan so i'll get further detail on this then and hopefully lessen my net bills!
Arbythep00nage
4th January 2008, 10:33 AM
I have one WRT54GL running the routing tables and it does both accounts, Its running DD-WRT and works very nicely.
Other than that Routesentry works well with XP machines, in Vista it still works but you need a half-bridge compatible router.
sss
4th January 2008, 10:37 AM
the WRT54GL running those custom scripts is probably one of the nicest solutions out there, you can pick up these routers for R699. Its just a bit of a process for someone who knows very little about them to get it up and running(not for askari)
sss
4th January 2008, 10:39 AM
flange, the easiest thing to do is for you to tell us what hardware you have and then we can work from there
Voicy
4th January 2008, 11:28 AM
I thought Askari just swears at his hardware until it starts working out of mortal fear.
sss
4th January 2008, 11:42 AM
the only things that have any fear of askari are chickens, when he comes around to take their tempreatures
Askari
4th January 2008, 02:35 PM
Like a vet....
SunnyCash
4th January 2008, 04:06 PM
WoW... so... much... reading. Thanks it will be used the next time we run out
sss
4th January 2008, 04:13 PM
u got a spare pc at home?
SunnyCash
4th January 2008, 04:15 PM
I will soon. I am buying Fallen and myself new pc's.
MADMAXBADBOY
3rd June 2009, 09:22 PM
OK I have the solution IPCOP on a VM Machine PM me and ill figure a way to get you the Info Works on all SYSTEMS Like a CHARM and on your entire network.
Askari
3rd June 2009, 09:24 PM
pm me the info pls. I really need to get something going one of these years.
MADMAXBADBOY
3rd June 2009, 10:22 PM
pm me the info pls. I really need to get something going one of these years.
I have upped the files and video of how to do it.
www.blowupdoll.co.za/clan/MADMAXBADBOY
IPCOPSETUP DIRECTRY
ALL FILES ARE IN THERE
There is a text file for you for COD4
:D:D:D:D:D
stoke
4th June 2009, 05:43 AM
MMB, did you peeerharps also integrate the multiple logins and passwords into the ip cop interface?
MADMAXBADBOY
4th June 2009, 08:27 AM
its all in video Stroke ALL IN VIDEO
MY MOM CAN SET IT UP JUST WATCHING THE VIDEO
stoke
4th June 2009, 08:36 AM
I don't believe you. Writing code is not something that my mom will do, ever.
MADMAXBADBOY
4th June 2009, 08:43 AM
she mite surprise you
Flatty
4th June 2009, 11:16 AM
Can you guys start again without all the interruptions - I am confused :p
Thumponius
4th June 2009, 11:26 AM
Ah, Flatty is back to as-near-normal as he can be! Welcome back, lad.
senorblinky
4th June 2009, 11:37 AM
I am confused
HEY! That's MY LINE!!
MADMAXBADBOY
4th June 2009, 02:53 PM
Can you guys start again without all the interruptions - I am confused :p
I have upped the files and video of how to do it.
www.blowupdoll.co.za/clan/MADMAXBADBOY
IPCOPSETUP DIRECTRY
ALL FILES ARE IN THERE
There is a text file for you for COD4
THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND THE MOST STABLE WAY
trust me i have tried everything.
I am Running win7 build 7100
:violin::)
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