COD4 vs. BF2

[SosmanSA]

Having not yet bought this... was talking to mate at work who has.
he reckons it blows BF2 out of the water... in about every department... and probably will steal many from BF2.

What's your take guys? Is it worth buying?? (must add... did buy Crysis... still haven't opened the packaging yet)

[stoke]

The multiplayer game is completely ruined by grenade spamming morons and impossible shot tricksters and people running mouse-programs that allow them to fire a pistol at 12 shots a millisecond and of course, they know the terrain so well, you'll be dead before you even peek around a corner.

The playing fields are too small for a noob to be able to sit back and get into the game, and the games are over in less than 4 minutes. If there was a noob server, that restricted by rank or something, then perhaps it would be feasable.

Otherwise, the multiplayer has several game-modes that are interesting to say the least, and you can hear the enemy approaching and the graphics are fast and excellent and the weapon accuracy is really good, aim carefully!

Singleplayer is freaking beautiful though. Short, but beautiful.

[Hoss]

This is the kind of comparison I've been waiting for, an opportunity for the BF2 fanatics to diss COD4.

Before that happens let me just say this.

BF2 and COD 4 are two different games, don't compare them, they're just not the same, so don't diss the COD style if you're a fan of the BF style. I'm a fan of both so I don’t get it why it has to be one or the other.

If you like close quarter fighting where you have to think before you run around a corner (most likely into an incoming grenade), where moving about slowly, thoughtfully and methodically can leave you on top, then get COD 4.
The multiplayer game is not ruined by grenade throwing moron's (yes they're there and they are morons, but they don't ruin it), because as I said, move slowly, adapt tactics, and the grenade boys will become insignificant, because you've just out flanked them and mowed them all down, grenades in hand!

Really, I was wondering how long I'll be into this game, till I had a round with Carrion, where the two of us moved through an underground tunnel to the opposite side of the map, in short by moving together and getting behind the enemy, we hurt them. That was it for me; this game is like SWAT on steroids.

And PS. Nothing stops you from playing both!

[SunnyCash]

The game is great all round and probably will permanently take peeps from Bf, but and this is a big but it is very 1 dimensional spawn kill die pawn kill die pawn kill die and so forth. can never replace bf because the game play in bf is more than running around shooting. Its kinda like playing 64 peeps on a 16 player map io style in battlefield. Lots of fun for a hour or two but thats it.

[SlappY]

I will look mainly from a COD 4 perspective, cause I gave up on BF when the retards screwed the game up.

They are 2 completely different games, drawing a comparison would be doing both an injustice. However, being the more recent of the 2 COD4 is obviously more technically advanced (graphics, sounds, penetreble surfaces, etc).

Also, it is a lot more than shoot and be shot, when you get into it COD4 is VERY tactical. If you going to score and KD, you better know your maps and the flow of battle.

Things I like about COD4 over BF:
Firing giving enemy position away = not campers.
Penetreble surfaces.. once you played this... and really played it, you will never want to go back.
Easy knife work, click, whoosh, dead.
Upgrade and unlock system. Perks and weapon mods RAWK, can swing the battle.
Varying game modes, just adds a little spice.
Challenges... man some of those things are pretty creative.
The way arial support works. No more whoring.

What I felt they could have added:
A cover system. I have yet to see a mainstream online game pull this off.
Stat tracking.

[doobiwan]

I agree with 100% of Slappy's comments, but I'll add this...

CoD4 owes a heck of a lot to BF2. They took all the good and added more. I'll say it's success is not totally due to innovation, but more to lack of comparably high grade tactical squad shooters out at the moment, it got its timing perfect.

A biggee is also that CoD4 is a lot more confined, There are no playable vehicles which makes a lot of the stuff like C4 and RPG's superfluous. I think if BF:BC / BF3 just give a little hat tip back to CoD4 they'll pwn it with destructible environments and vehicles.

Having said that, it is a great game and if you're a bit tired of BF2 it's a nice diversion.

[CarRi0n]

I play both, but give much more attention to BF. When I bought COD it took me +- 10H to finish the single player and it was really good fun. Then I started playing online and was hooked for about 3 weeks and went back to BF. The ranking and stat system in BF attracts me more and currently I want to gain more experience to get on par with some other players.

When I played with HosstheBoss the other night it was the first time in 4 months, but I really had fun. I also agree that you can't compare the 2 games cause you can't go and play COD with your BF style and tactics. To me Cod has alot of CSS style mixed with some BF in it.

[SlappY]

I reckon thats the BF drug. The stats and ranking, which is why when 2142, QW: ET comes along you get lackluster response despite the innovations to the gameplay they introduced. (albeit 2142 had some serious bugs) The fellas dont wanna give up their hard earned ranks. It is what has made BF the success it is but I suspect it will also be the successors undoing. (plus the fact that it runs really well on a low end machine). Which is also why COD 4 is a success. It is more revolutionary than evolutionary. I think the attitude would be "Well why do I want to pick up something that is more of what I already got. (2142, QW:ET)", where COD4 is so completely different you see a lot of BF peeps using it as the alternative.

[stoke]

In BF2, I can spawn miles away from the action, get into a vodnik and do nothing but shoot at passing choppers if i feel like it, and still be doing something useful. I can also drive around in a fast jeep and roadkill, or ride up to a tank and jump out and watch the tank driver bail and then laugh my ass off while trying to shoot him before he jumps back into the tank.

BF2 just has more playable depth, and can actually be relaxing.

COD4 multiplayer is far from relaxing.

[BambisRevenge]

yeah i agree with some of what has been said.

you cant really compare the games directly.

i often thoroughly enjoy CoD 4 but then again i sometimes hate it. then again lately ive grown a strong dislike for bf2, suppose ive just got over it.

in CoD 4 howerver i have a different beef to what people have said here, then again maybe they just havnt noticed it. comming from a pretty competitive CSS background for almost all of my serious online gaming life, i find that CoD 4 PROMOTES noobish game play; i feel this for quite a multitude of reasons

-Headshots do not kill with one hit, only with the M14 rifle (with damage increase) and snipers... i think this is absolute bullocks, it only does 40-50% more damage, weapon depending.

-Practically no recoil, holding down attack and spraying an ENTIRE CLIP has little affect on weapon accuracy and is the tactic of preference with most people that play, and it works. Ive been disgusted to see people spray an AFKer (that they knew was afk) to death in the midsection.

-delay to aim down sights, makes it really difficult to aim down sights then accurately shoot them before you are dead.

-the above points in my opinion actually will make your aim WORSE, as the game PROMOTES spraying and little need for aim whatsover and headshots barely being rewarded, mild pointing in their direction is more like what it aims for.

- NADE SPAMMAGE FTWzOrS! i mean nades are fully cookable (ie no fuse time if done right), have a huge instant kill radius and even bigger damage and shellshock radius. and then guess what? u get a triple nade perk! woohoo!!! *sigh*

- Grenade launcher, it was actually proven that mentally handicapped people can get kills reasonably easily with the grenade launcher, its leathal at all ranges (arming range is total bullocks, it just kills instantly unexploded) has a large damage area and large instant kill area, also there is no aiming/firing delay unlike the RPG, witch also goes totaly squiff! haha.

This is my main beef with the game, then again i think this is one of the main reasons why the game has sold so well, as anyone can play it i think.

I still enjoy the game often and would say its a good buy, dispite my whining.

[edited by stoke : requested to put the real contents of his post here after the problems wif da internet last night]

[EyeBall]

I'm in 2 minds with these 2 .. Yes .. bf2 rocks , you got more freedom , drive around , roadkill , and on a good night it gets really intense .. esp . SF ... This really rocks with the grapples , zip lines ...

like Wednesday .. the server was basically grrr's and Wrg's ... it was intense .. no easy target ... you knew that if you run into someone it was do or die .. NO GRENADE SPAMMING

Yes I know .. lots of you think ... HELL eye .. let it be .. but , back in the day of CS I used to be king with nades ... you knew the map so well that after 10 sec you threw 3 nades and was guaranteed a kill or 4 ...

Playing cod4 is awesome , but with the right people and that is like it with any game . I enjoy COD well did , Until I joined the tactical servers .. I SAY NO THANKS

on the other hand darrin ... hardcore is really awesome , quick moving REALLY tactical , cause one good shot and your tickets ... makes you really think , the hardcore server is usually more serious players and they use the guns the played so hard to unlock .. not just the free nads.

to my conclusion as most of you found is that it's 2 totally different games .. Cod graphics rocks .. gimme bf2 gameplay and stats and unlocks with graphics like cod and you got a winner of note ... this game will take most of the bf2 players and cod players

PS .. squads is really missed in cod4 , voip doesn't really work and the maps is toooo small .. you shouldn't be able to spawn and throw a nad and kill the opponents

bf2 things that REALLY REALLY bugs me is the big holes in the choppers and that we don't have a full map rotation server AF/EF all urban and jet maps ... that should be how the game should be played ... I hope darkie pulls that off

sosman ... get it , it's worth it .. even if you just do the single player of it ... awesome game ...

BF2 (SF) :punk:

[Albereth]

It is more like CounterStrike than BF2

[Punky3025]

I think there is less hax in COD4

[senorblinky]

I think there is less hax in COD4

Give it time... Just give it time...


I don't know, i haven't tried the Multiplayer side of it, but the singleplayer campaign is fantastic. However, i don't think we should compare games anymore, they are built differently, and work differently so obviously you need to retrain your fingers again to press 4 to chuck a grenade instead of scrolling down.

Ultimately, even if you don't play it online, i'd say the singleplayer campaign is definitely worth the price tag, but you'll undoubtedly finish it in a day or two.

[Albereth]

There are more 'tards and stat padders and the admins are of the CS school of thought.

Wait, what am I saying - CS people thinking?

[Voicy]

COD4 is , as everyone says, worth the buy for just the SP mode. It's the best sniping game i've ever played. The C-130 specter was also an AMAZING add to the game, and all in all, the story made it work.

The last time i played online was when sgs had 2 servers, i didnt enjoy it immensely coz of pro's simply pwning you before you can blink. But i must add the internet connection works awesomely kief on it. I played it with my dubious lag & i forgot to disable my torrents... and the game worked perfectly.

[Vortex]

I still prefer BF2 for the reasons Stokey mentioned.. Planes, [-]trains[/-] tanks and automobiles.
COD4 I can have a brilliant round where I pwn the world, then the next round I can't even spawn without dying.. I never get how people can make these amazing shots and head shoot me through the bushes I'm hiding behind.. That makes me annoyed, and the 60 bullets a second thing with the pistol is also a bit iffy.

I'll play COD4 every now and then, but the chats that we have in BF2 don't happen in COD4 - the lack of squads and stupidly designed VOIP annoys me. You don't get a chance to actually choose who you wanna talk to by leaving a squad and joining another.

Too much COD4 trashes your leet BF2 skills though.. Even remapping keys to the same places as BF2 makes you useless with stuff like trying to kill someone hiding behind a wall or battling with grenades & knives.

They are 2 totally different games though..

[doobiwan]

Yeah I think some of you hit the nail on the head. When CoD4 came out I dubbed it "Counterstrike for Grown ups" - Nuff said.

[sirfortie]

If you play online...only and ONLY play HARDCORE....UGSA HARDCORE server Rawks.
I Really enjoy the MP mode of COD4...
...only HARDCORE,remember!? ;)

[Flatty]

...I feel that they are two completely different games:

1> As stated earlier in this thread: I like the fact that in BF2 you can actually step back from the action, park off in a Vodnik & have a smoke before going into action (Stand still in COD & you will die)
2> The social aspect of BF2 is so much more personal because you can join/create a squad of your own choosing without having to converse with the rest of the pea-brains
3> Now that I'm running BF2 @ 1680x1050 I have a new found appreciation for the beauty of the game. COD is visually superior, but alas my otherwise demon of a PC seems to suffer some lag @ that resolution. Perhaps it's time for a second 8800GTS?
4> COD seems to have mastered the art of quick load times & lag-free play on international servers.

I like both games, but I agree with Sunny Cash - COD is alright in small doses.

[SosmanSA]

MM...thx guys.

Will prob get COD4 in the week or so. (When I next go off to Menlyn). Sounds great...must say for all the reasons mentioned earlier... I keep getting drawn back to BF !! Like a moth to the flame eh ;)

[Drusky]

NEWBY OPINION HERE

COD4 is about YOU and in that spirit I haven't bothered to read the other opinions posted in this thread.

You do not chuckle and chat with your mates, you do not easily plan an attack. There is no time, the map is too small and there is no place to hide where the vicious wall eating bullets of your 1337 enemas won't get you

COD4 is about YOU, your beautiful weapon camo and the awesome bling that goes onto your weapons. I love that aspect of it and sit happily for many minutes changing and rearranging the custom bits available to me. I'm only level 5 and there are still lots of mods to win. Gotta catch them all.

I saw a fellow WrG on today, I think it was veer, but he ran past me so flipping quickly, I couldn't be sure. He is many levels above me and for a brief moment I imagined we might join a squad together to say Hoesiiiiiit and moan together about the thick cloud of nades falling from the sky, but that doesn't happen in COD4. I spent the rest of the round dead and wondering what kewl stuffs he gets to play with being higher than level 5 and if he dies as much as me.

Sometimes you pick up 1337 stuff that the 1337 peeps leave behind when they trip on something and die. I always admire the beautiful camo and silencer and scope before I die too. Next time I pick something like that I'm going to shoot at the wall so I can hear 1337 weapon fire before the end. Who know maybe there'll be someone on the other side of the wall to take my 1337 lead. This kind of find gives me hope for the future. That I might somehow kill enough enema to be able to play with these mooi toys too.

What is nice about COD4 is that while you are dead you get to watch the other guys play. Click your mouse till you find a guy with a seraaisly colourful weapon. If the colour of his piece makes you think he might be a moffie then keep watching. This is how you figure out where everything on the map is. You'll also notice that the oke is using way more keyboard and mouse controls than you. This has helped me accept my role as lemming and forward enema marker because I know I can't press all those buttons at once like that and survive to tell you about it.

Sadly I can't get into any COD multiplayer at the moment, it wants a "keycode authorization" :( The sad message pops up in yellow on the countdown screen.

[Hoss]

As newbie, please add your names to the player lists, that way we can look out for you and join you in a game and show you (as in my case) how a 2nd lieutenant dies like a complete noob.

But I tell you, the satisfaction when you have a good round is just out there, with things like checking a taxi break down, or seeing the in-laws (well possible future in-laws) making a ponts of themselves and realizing it!

[veer477]

Drusky ur post was just amazing, exactly the way I felt when I started.
Shoot just radomly with the l337 gun to hear what it sounds like. :rofl:

:sharp: I wrote u a msg on screen but u not reply :D

Any way hope to see u soon again.

Ok ok i'm gona brag, I'm a Brigadier General lv2 {level 45} :p
It doesn't take long to get to higher ranks and its so very much rewarding :D

[Punky3025]

Heheh I didn't see the writing on the screen, it was raining. The map ended very quickly too.

Drusky

[veer477]

all good :D

[doobiwan]

Hang in there guys, once you finally get the "martyrdom" perk, you'll start to rack up kills ;)

That and claymores, C4 is a waste of time, RPG's are for choppers.

[Sabre]

COD4 is Counter Strike with better graphics ... period

[Drusky]

I'm level 25 now and can say that this game is very addictive woohoo \o.O/

That said I think I've had enough of it for now after this last week where I played it every chance I got. Battlefield 2 is still a nicer game. At first I thought the customization of COD4 made it far more interesting than BF2 but you eventually realize that there's nothing unique about your weapon and the bling you've been rewarded with... nothing at all. You can only hope that you stumble across one of the better combinations of perks and weapon addons.

[doobiwan]

Exactly.

I think folks are just enamoured with it at the moment because it is a good game that came out at exactly the right time (Xmas & Halo 3 disappointed many) But it is pretty one dimensional.