Policy Change

[TG]

Friends, Geeks, Clan members, lend me your tears.

No wait. Already done that. Errm. Scratch that.

In light of our not very positive forays into MMOs, we have decided that it is in everyone's best interests if the War Geeks Clan no longer officially supports any type of MMO or game that has a built-in persistent guild-type structure (for sake of my sanity, I will group all those types of games under the MMO moniker in this post).

We've been burned. Twice. I will not let it happen again when it is within our power to prevent it. There appears to be a common thread in these types of games where one lot gets upset with another lot, or disagrees with how things are handled, resulting in massive strife and upset.

No more.

The friendships that have been built go beyond a silly game. Unfortunately, people get embroiled in the games, and they let little things upset them. This is beyond anybody's control. Therefore we take the clan aspect out of it.

As far as MMOs are concerned: If members are playing a particular MMO, be it WoW or Aion, etc, and they need or want a separate discussion area for the game, it is NO problem for us to create a new public forum for it. We will NOT create private forums for these games. The ONLY involvement that the clan or council will have, is to keep the threads civil. Who you choose to play with and have members of your guild have nothing to do with the clan. If you have political issues within your game, it is YOUR issue to take up with your game leadership. The council and the rest of the clan will not get involved.
"War Geeks", "WrG", or any other form of the clan name may not be used as guild names, as it infers support from the clan.

If a council member or other clan leadership-type member has a leadership role within an MMO, it is purely incidental and has no bearing on the clan, whatsoever.

Clan involvement in FPS-style games that support tags will not change at this time.

There will be a separate post in the World of Warcraft forums that will detail how this policy change will affect current members. See here: http://www.wargeeks.org/showthread.php?t=8289

[Noodle]

So like how us Console folk are supported.

Good way of preventing future miss haps.... You know the strange thing is having blocked the wow threads I had no idea of splits and the such. So yes I can see how this will work in favor of the clan as a whole. As this will not stop clannies from playing the same game together.

Good work red peeps :sharp:

[gus]

Smart move.

[Arbythep00nage]

Does this mean I cant be a WrG in guildwars anymore?
Why is it that I take on games no one else plays anymore :D

[Voicy]

It's BECAUSE you take on games ... that nobody wants to play anymore. :blackeye:






:kiss:

[WondaWoman]

Well..it solves any future nonsense from being affiliated with the clan I suppose. It still doesn't prevent us from playing MMO's together. Do the council think there will be any change to the tags from FPS? I see you use the words "at this time" when you mention it. Does it mean you are discussing it? I'd just like to know.

[sss]

nah, it means we are banning women from the clan as well

[Hoss]

I think this is a very good move TG. Well done

[VuduSA]

Awesome change TG !!

[EyeBall]

:panic: :thumbsup:

[TG]

Well..it solves any future nonsense from being affiliated with the clan I suppose. It still doesn't prevent us from playing MMO's together. Do the council think there will be any change to the tags from FPS? I see you use the words "at this time" when you mention it. Does it mean you are discussing it? I'd just like to know.

No, there will be no change to the tags, and we're not discussing any changes other than what we have already announced. Unless you want to suggest something?

[Vortex]

That sounds like the sensible route.
:sharp:

edit: I'm sure you've considered the private invited forum like Stokey set up for Travian?

[Thumponius]

Unless you want to suggest something?

I suggest that we leave this topic to die out and only have the discussions in the new public forum that is going to be set up so that we can move on and up and get this community back to the values that were originally the foundation of an awesome group of peeps. QED

[gus]

Does this mean I cant be a WrG in guildwars anymore?
Why is it that I take on games no one else plays anymore :D

I said hi to you in GW the other day, but you did not answer. :D

I do not think we have the cash to set up another guild in GW and to be honest, I cannot see the point, since as you say it is pretty much a ghost town at the moment.

[Arbythep00nage]

No thanks, I like my WrGP tags thanks :p
Besides if I dont have tags then you know SSG will pester me even more to put theirs on!

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I said hi to you in GW the other day, but you did not answer. :D

I do not think we have the cash to set up another guild in GW and to be honest, I cannot see the point, since as you say it is pretty much a ghost town at the moment.

I saw that and I clicked on guild and typed a few things to you which were promptly ignored :(
Im quite sure its me not knowing what im doing though. I still have no clue but I run around and hit stuff with sticks :p
Im a lvl12 now.

[Voicy]

I saw that and I clicked on guild and typed a few things to you which were promptly ignored :(
Im quite sure its me not knowing what im doing though. I still have no clue but I run around and hit stuff with sticks :p
Im a lvl12 now.

Lies! ALL LIES! :mad:

Gus, don't believe a word he says. Ever since RB got himself that Haxx Imp he thinks he's better than us. :unimpressed:

(Truth be told, if I had me a Haxx Imp I'd ignore you okes too :gyes:)

[Sabre]

You lads still playing GW ?!?!?!

[TG]

That sounds like the sensible route.
:sharp:

edit: I'm sure you've considered the private invited forum like Stokey set up for Travian?

Que?

That forum doesn't exist in that form anymore.

[Voicy]

You lads still playing GW ?!?!?!

Yeah, RB and I started a little while ago.

My lvl 10 noob ranger (MAIN) already had his 3rd b'day present on there - so I rerolled an elementalist and got him to lvl 20. Since I bought my copies ages back, I wasn't blessed with the presence of a Fire Imp combat pet. :sad:

At least I still have my Melandru's Stalker, Marvin. He's such a big boy, aren't you Marvin? Yes you are! :gimmehug:

[Arbythep00nage]

Lies! ALL LIES! :mad:

Gus, don't believe a word he says. Ever since RB got himself that Haxx Imp he thinks he's better than us. :unimpressed:

(Truth be told, if I had me a Haxx Imp I'd ignore you okes too :gyes:)

My haxx imp is the p00nage. Sabre I just started, its quite fun to get a change from bf2 and Im not going to be playing WoW!

[Tresbien]

nah, it means we are banning women from the clan as well

:faint:

Other than that I think it's a good idea :) :pompom:

[Flatty]

Super Serial/Cereal?

Tipoc - did Bartman mean Cereal or Serial?

[WondaWoman]

No suggestions. I was just asking. Things are fine this way.

[Mugato]

The sun has broken through the clouds today.

Its moments like these I want to take off my shirt and hug people. Well done to all involved who made these descions Ive read in the forums today.

I salute you!!

[Voicy]

The sun has broken through the clouds today.

Its moments like these I want to take off my shirt and hug people.

:panic:

[TG]

The sun has broken through the clouds today.

Its moments like these I want to take off my shirt and hug people. Well done to all involved who made these descions Ive read in the forums today.

I salute you!!


:panic:

I had pretty much the same thoughts... :ohnoes:

[Flatty]

Geez....you okes are so ghei :p Me, I NEVER spew sentimental stuff, ever, coz I am a man - hear me roar.

[senorblinky]

Well if you take of your shirt and start hugging people, i'm first in line!

[Vortex]

He's weird - wears his jersey UNDER his shirt..

But the jersey's wool is oh so curly! :D

[Arbythep00nage]

kekekke,Jersey boy :p
Im a lumberjack so I dont need a jersey.

[gus]

I saw that and I clicked on guild and typed a few things to you which were promptly ignored :(
Im quite sure its me not knowing what im doing though. I still have no clue but I run around and hit stuff with sticks :p
Im a lvl12 now.

Sorry RB, I do not think anything showed. But I might just have missed it, in which case please accept my humblest apologies. Please also let me know if you need any help or anything.


You lads still playing GW ?!?!?!

My wife and I dusted off the game a couple of weeks ago, after a couple of years absence. We each created a new character and are busy playing through the first campaign again. We are doing on average one mission a night for some R&R time, so are about two thirds through the campaign. We have enough heroes and stuff so that we can do anything we want, just the two of us. It is a nice blast from the past. The game still looks great in my opinion.

[Noodle]

If you ever in Nightfall or eye of the North... Let me know :p

[gus]

If you ever in Nightfall or eye of the North... Let me know :p

Sure, will do.

[gus]

edit: I'm sure you've considered the private invited forum like Stokey set up for Travian?

:soapbox:

Travian was all about forming a mutual protection group and then trying to lie, cheat, spy on and backstab other groups as much as possible, while trying to stop them from doing the same to you. :lol: A private forum is a must for that. It was a strange ride.

I was thinking on why we never had issues in Travian and I think I have figured it out. We basically have issues every time there is a scarce resource the clan/guild members has to compete for. We never had that for Travian.

For example, Guild Wars was all mostly happy-happy since GW has practically no scarce resources. Getting the best armor and weapons are pretty trivial etc. The only time we had a scarce resource in the GW guild was for 70+ members to compete for 8-ish slots to compete in the Agasa league, and then the wheels came off badly, since we were completely unprepared on how to deal with this allocation of the scarce resource.

For BF xx, I think we were actually lucky so far. We usually struggle to fill the roster for a clanny, so there is no competition for slots. If we had the same situation as is GW where we had 70 odd people competing for 8 slots, we would probably also have had major trouble.

WoW on the other hand, practically everything is a scarce resource requiring a lot of "work" to get. This include raid slots and high end drops. This means guild members constantly compete with each other, leading to a lot of stress. WoW has evolved a lot of things to cope with this stress including kill points (DKP) and Imba scores, but it still cannot take all the stress away, especially since long hours of "work" are involved.

So, what I am trying to say, I think my conclusion is that I think our issues have little to do with MMO vs FPS. It is more that we struggle with situations where we have to compete with each other for resources of some kind. We are friends, so it makes it even harder to make tough choices without hurting feelings. :gimmehug: Unfortunately it is sometimes hard to predict when this will happen, like the GW situation that caught me completely unprepared.

[Nitty]

Much goodness in this thread :thumbsup:

Thank you TG and the other red peeps - good decision.
@SSS :valkoog: (and I'm considering the :chair:)
@Vorty - you are a hoot!! If I didn't rep you 5 minutes ago, I would do it now :D

[Bass]

Excellent decision guys ! I certainly support it 100%

[Jono]

It does make sense to do so. :) Still amazed at how many changes occurred whilst i couldn't be here. But things can only go better from here me finks. (Hopes too)

[Punky3025]

The sun has broken through the clouds today.

Its moments like these I want to take off my shirt and hug people. Well done to all involved who made these descions Ive read in the forums today.

I salute you!!
You live life like a soccer player, I see them doing this quite often on the News. Mostly when they score.

~Drusky

[Flatty]

You live life like a soccer player, I see them doing this quite often on the News. Mostly when they score.

~Drusky

It's especially nice when you get the soft bristle of man fur rubbing against your nipples :)

[Mugato]

Hmmmm furry nipples. Reminds me of friday nights at Voicy's house. :wink:

[Vortex]

/me flees screaming to the Man Thread

[WondaWoman]

That's Slummies people for you

[Nitty]

Shouldn't that go under the unexpected confessions thread? Or was it expected and I'm just slow? :p

[Titan]

It's especially nice when you get the soft bristle of man fur rubbing against your nipples :)

Dude......you are not well, that statement just freaks me out!!!!:eek:...it's just wrong on all levels...

[Flatty]

That's Slummies people for you


Dude......you are not well, that statement just freaks me out!!!!:eek:...it's just wrong on all levels...

If you have seen the quality of the available womankind in this town, you'd understand :p You really would. The only way you get a decent woman in this town is to have a serious bank balance, or blackmail them like RB did.

I think we're being punished for staying here too long :sad:

[Nitty]

If that's what RB did to get his pretty wife, I say go for it :shrug:

[Flatty]

If that's what RB did to get his pretty wife, I say go for it :shrug:

Well, it was just an assumption,actually - people who live in small towns aren't interested in the truth. The truth is boring. If people who lived in small towns actually spoke the truth & minded their own business they'd probably slit their wrists.

This is what we have going for us in East London:

1. The Internet
2. Did I say the Internet?
3. I am sure I didn't mention the Internet.

[Voicy]

Flatty has a point. The rule of thumb for girls in EL is the following...

EL Girls comprise of a maximum of 2 of the following attributes:

1) Pretty
2) Single
3) Mentally stable

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Hmmmm furry nipples. Reminds me of friday nights at Voicy's house. :wink:

Come on dude! I told you ... what happens at Voicy's house STAYS at Voicy's house ... and youtube.

[Nitty]

Link? :psycho:

[Nitty]

Have I been waiting for this link for more than a year? Voicy.. :baseballbat:

[Thumponius]

Do I detect the presence of a BumpHammer?

[rainy]

Right now I am too lazy to wield it...

[Nitty]

I blame TG. His links brought me here :)

[senorblinky]

Have I been waiting for this link for more than a year? Voicy.. :baseballbat:

JARE Nitty, JARE!!

[Megnut3025]

Nits if we're lucky enough Voicy is going to treat us with a visit while you're here in the windy city... then I'll hold him down and you can :chair: :D

:pompom:

[Voicy]

Nits if we're lucky enough Voicy is going to treat us with a visit while you're here in the windy city... then I'll hold him down and you can :chair: :D

:pompom:

The last time you did that, this happened (http://wargeeks.org/showthread.php/9933-The-Clan-continues-to-grow...). :bitenails:

[TotalWar]

The last time you did that, this happened (http://wargeeks.org/showthread.php/9933-The-Clan-continues-to-grow...). :bitenails:

:rofl:

So the question is did you like it?

[Nitty]

The last time you did that, this happened (http://wargeeks.org/showthread.php/9933-The-Clan-continues-to-grow...). :bitenails:

Are you scared of falling pregnant Voicy? :wink:

[Askari]

I blame TG. His links brought me here :)

Me too and Im still trying to figure out the relevance.

[Megnut3025]

The last time you did that, this happened (http://wargeeks.org/showthread.php/9933-The-Clan-continues-to-grow...). :bitenails:

:lmao: I didn't realise that Nitsy was present when that link happened! :eek: :jawdrop: :D


Are you scared of falling pregnant Voicy? :wink:


OMW Woman you make me laugh!! :rofl: :faint:

:pompom:

[Flatty]

It's a good thing not to involve the clan with any MMORPG's. God knows, I lost the plot enough on my own. I almost gave up on you wonderful people for a stupid game. It would have ranked right up there with the worst mistakes of my life. Just putting that out there, use it, lose it! :p

[TG]

Go to bed. What in the heck are you doing up so late? :p

[Nitty]

It's a good thing not to involve the clan with any MMORPG's. God knows, I lost the plot enough on my own. I almost gave up on you wonderful people for a stupid game. It would have ranked right up there with the worst mistakes of my life. Just putting that out there, use it, lose it! :p

We are awesome, aren't we? :D

[Flatty]

Go to bed. What in the heck are you doing up so late? :p

What else do you do at that time of the morning? Drink BEER! :gyes:

[TotalWar]

It is the same with everything in life; certain things should be kept separate from each other. Otherwise anyone could end up making some big mistakes.

[Nitty]

It is the same with everything in life; certain things should be kept separate from each other. Otherwise anyone could end up making some big mistakes.

Like you're keeping Nitty separate from your halva ice cream?