Patch 3.3 Notes

[senorblinky]

From WoW.com - http://www.wow.com/2009/11/05/patch-3-3-ptr-patch-notes-updated/

And

http://www.wow.com/guide-to-patch-3-3



Some highlights for me:


You no longer have to clear Naxxramas to get to Sapphiron's lair. Tha means that raids will now be able to go directly to Sapphiron, and (presumably) subsequently Kel'Thuzad.


This is going to make chasing achievements MUCH easier, and gearing up fresh 80s as well.



Emblems of Triumph to be the new base emblems

This is also great news for fresh 80s, you can jump from your 80 greens and blues iLevel 174 gear, past Naxx 10 iLevel 200 gear, past Naxx 25 iLevel 213 gear, past Ulduar 10 iLevel 219 gear, past Ulduar 25 iLevel 226 gear STRAIGHT into ToC heroic iLevel 245 gear. Ready for the iLevel 271 gear in icecrown citadel.



Arctic Fur is less annoying, vendor purchased

From most expensive and rare thing, to useless vendor bought piece of crap.



Disenchant as a loot option



And much, much more.

Go click the links, go read the reports - i couldn't find a date on these though.

[Voicy]

Damn ... so my poor little rogue with his single lvl219 item is exactly that. Poor and little. :sad:

[senorblinky]

Yeah, but the kicker is, you can run heroic dungeons and upgrade that little oke in the course of a few days, not just one or two items per raid per week.

[Mugato]

I like the changes. Blizzard is starting to catch a wake up.

[senorblinky]

Blizzard has been making millions from us for a few years now.
We will take what they give us, good or bad, and live with it, because we are addicts.

[Flatty]

I ain't so addicted any more - got pwned holy by warlocks in the BG's.....fear, fear, fear, WTF?, fear, fear, fear...oh, hello Angel where did you come from?

Anyone feel like offering me a decent amount for my account, otherwise I am selling it - been offered $370 for it & that was only one the basis of Angelica, my Paladin. I couldn't be bothered to fill out the other toons?

[Voicy]

R3k ... not bad dude...that would mean you made a profit from playing wow.

[Flatty]

I don't know how you can possible call playing more than 3 months solid, 24/7 & only get R3k for it a profit, but if you say so? Never mind a year & a half of subs, bandwidth, and the actual cost of the game & the two expansions.

[Hoss]

How about buying a ton of Borean leather off AH now; waiting for the patch and then reselling it at a profit for those wanting Artic Fur? What da ya think?

[Voicy]

I don't know how you can possible call playing more than 3 months solid, 24/7 & only get R3k for it a profit, but if you say so? Never mind a year & a half of subs, bandwidth, and the actual cost of the game & the two expansions.

I'm not going to count BW, because you would've used it on playing another game anyway.

WoW = R300
TBC = R300
WOTLK = R350

That's R950

Subs = 18 x R150 = R2700

So that's R3650 that you've physically spent on the game.

18 Months = 540 days. Iow it cost you R1.20 per day to play wow.

Now ... for 18 months of enjoyment and 3 of those months being 24/7 attention ... how much prospective money did you save, which you would've spent had you gone out on a night in the town or renting dvd's or whatnot.

If it's less than R1.20, then I humbly apologize for miscalculating your relative profit.

[senorblinky]

I bill R600 per hour.
I have 75 days on Predikant alone.
That's approximately 1800 billable hours that has gone into one char alone.
That's R1,080,000.00 i could have billed in the two years since i started playing.

[Flatty]

Voicy - I am sooooooo glad you don't do my accounting. You seem to have a misguided idea of the true cost of things, as Blinky so eloquently illustrated above.

You have over looked one factor in your calculations i.e. the UNSHAPED bandwidth I used, which I wouldn't have bothered with if I was playing BF2. Try adding in R125 per Gig of unshaped X 2 for at least a year (because unlike you I am not happy disconnecting & keeping the whole raid waiting :p) - R3k

Additionally because of the continual grinding nature of WoW, I was forced to play more than I would have a game like BF2, for example, because to be at the top you have to have Gold - so instead of just logging into BF2 and shooting straight away, I had to make a concerted effort to do dailies on a regular basis. WoW FORCES you to play more than you would a shoot-em-up like BF2, because not only do you have to grind for Gold, but you also have to sit twiddling your thumbs while all & sundry hold up the raid because the dog is barking, or the GF is moaning, or, or, or....You are also committed to a raid for X amount of hours if you want to be seen as a reliable raiding partner & be invited back again. BF2 = just disconnect when you've had enough.

WoW forces you to play more than you would a normal game, therefore the cost in terms of additional hours spent playing the game, additional bandwidth, etc, is far greater than any other game, never mind the fact that games like BF2 don't have a subscription.

No, my friend - WoW is an extremely expensive game to play in relation to ALL other games I would normally play. Throw in the massive patches they thrust at us willy-nilly & the cost of bandwidth becomes a relevant factor compared to other games. My 3 months estimate playing this game was off the top of my head - I have that on my priest alone.

Too expensive, every which way you look at it...

[Punky3025]

.....I was forced to play more ....\

Was that bamboo under your nails painful ?

[EyeBall]

My view of this is : If it's too expensive to play , don't. there is plenty other games out there that a person can play.

I don't bother to think of the costs. I look at it like this : the day I don't enjoy it anymore I will stop my subscription and stop playing and say it was fun.

What in this world of ours is free ? If it's free do you enjoy it as much and if you do ... well don't pay to play.

[Flatty]

Chaps - it's not that I didn't enjoy my time in WoW & that I still don't.

Due to my highly addictive nature, and the amount of play time required to compete at the top levels & be of use to the people I play with at these levels, this game requires much more time than another game would. It sucks you in & grips you like when you first gaze upon the filly that will give birth to your children, and once you're hooked you shall remain so. Unfortunately not all fillies are good for you, and this is one such filly. :p

For me it requires that I walk away before I throw more of my precious time, which I could be using elsewhere more productively, away.

[EyeBall]

so are you telling us your quitting wow ?

[Thumponius]

Talk about a case of Bye-Bye MT:

Source: Daelo
For Icecrown Citadel, we are implementing a spell that will affect every enemy creature in the raid. The spell, called Chill of the Throne, will allow creatures to ignore 20% of the dodge chance of their melee targets. So if a raid's main tank had 30% dodge normally, in Icecrown Citadel they will effectively have 10%.

Why are we doing this?

The high levels of tank avoidance players have obtained is making the incoming damage a tank DOES take more "spiky" than is healthy for raiding. Ideally, tanks would be receiving a relatively constant stream of damage over time. This allows healers to better plan their healing strategy, broaden their spell options, and simply give more time to react. Tanks could use their cooldowns more reactively. Instead, the current situation is that if we make a hard hitting melee boss and a tank doesn't avoid two successive swings then the tank could very well be dead in that 1-2 second window. The use of reactive defensive abilities instead becomes a methodically planned affair, healers have to spam their largest heals just in case the huge damage spike happens.

We've been trying to do a fair amount to mitigate the effect of high tank avoidance on the encounter side of things during this expansion with faster melee swings, additional melee strikes, dual wielding, narrowing the normal variance of melee swing damage, and various other tricks. There's a limit to what we can do, however. So to give us a bit of breathing room we’ve implemented Chill of the Throne. Going forward past Icecrown Citadel, we have plans to keep tank avoidance from growing so high again.

We'll have this on the PTR soon so players can see the effects inside Icecrown Raid.

Let's all reroll banking alts and have powder-puff fights in goldshire.

[Mugato]

so are you telling us your quitting wow ?

If I had R1 for everytime ive read a post where Flatty is quitting WoW I think I would have R1,080,000.00. :D:D