40K Dawn of War / Winter Assault

[doobiwan]

Woot!

Finally bought the expansion pack yesterday, goodbye sleep :)

Anyone keen to play?

[rainy]

Where can I get the expansion for not too much money?

[Ruslan74]

get the full game plus expansion for R299 at BT Games if you dont have the original game.

@ Doobiwan - drop me a line and we can have a match 1 vs 1. What do you say?

[doobiwan]

Sounds great, maybe some time this weekend. The Bundle is R299, and the expansion alone is R299, go figure!

[rainy]

I have the original game, was R99 at Pick n Pay. But they didn't have the expansion.

[doobiwan]

Cool, we can always just play vanilla DoW, I'm not familiar with the new units yet myself.

Maybe This evening? I can usually only get online around 10pm.

[rainy]

Give me some time to get familiar with the game... I just got it :D

[doobiwan]

I don't know about patch 1.41, but I can tell you the basics:
-Play aggressively - turtling doesn't work in vanilla DoW.
-To take out armour, you need anti armour weapons (rockets, plasma, lascannons) Normal bolters will just bounce off.
-Don't ignore morale! A broken unit is useless. Give squads leaders.

[fivel]

Steer clear of useless...he slaughters me everytime we play DoW....just thinking about it he slaughters me in every RTS game we play...:-(

[Ruslan74]

lol @ Fivel... i am not THAT evil... :p

@ Doobiwan - i will be on MSN but still havent patched my DoW to 1.41 so let me know what version you want to play later this evening... ;)

[doobiwan]

Doh, I mean DoW!

We just seemed to keep missing each other last night :( That's okay I guess, I got my butt kicked twice by random peeps.

[Ruslan74]

how about we play for say Monday evening around 8'ish? If it ok with you let me know in this thread. ;)

[rainy]

If you need it, I can burn Patch 1.41 on CD and send it to you... I burned my cap last month to get it ;)

[Ruslan74]

huh? you mean you got the full 240MB patch? i just got the 1.40 -> 1.41 patch which is 27MB... let me know when you guys patched... need some DoW time again... :p

[doobiwan]

Patched and good to go. Tonight sounds good, can we make it rather for 9?

[Ruslan74]

PM'ed you. Maybe we can do a 2 vs 2 if Fivel and Rainynight can join us?

[doobiwan]

That sounds awesome.

[Ruslan74]

and i promise not to spam Fire Prisms... :rolleyes:

[doobiwan]

hmmm . . . now I'm worried . .

edit: I'll counter with a guardsman rush!!!! :p

[Ruslan74]

ROFL! hehehe... my psychotic attacks are already working... ;)

[TG]

Heh, I do believe you mean 'psyching out' ;)

But I suppose psychotic works just as well, LOL! :D

[doobiwan]

No, that'd be chaos . . .

[Ruslan74]

Fivel is keen for a free for all. Now that will be chaos! :p

[doobiwan]

Do you want to go via the online lobby, or direct connect?

[Ruslan74]

direct connect. thus skype will make it easier to chat along.

let me ask you, do you rush in the game or build up before venturing into the dark fog of war?

[doobiwan]

Theoretically you can't really turtle in DoW, but I try my best ;)

I try to play aggressively but I think I need to be more so.

[fivel]

Err what is turtling around???

[Ruslan74]

yeah, at times i also draw back and wait... this ends in being my downfall so mostly i rush into a dancing match against the enemy.

with the Imperial Guard you can somewhat turtle and wait. but as usual the best defense is a big offense. ;)

[doobiwan]

Five, turtling's when you build huge defenses, sit back and farm and only towards end game, when you're fully tech'd do you attack. DoW is specifically designed so as to prevent you from doing that.

I tried it last night and was beaten by "capture and hold" the enemy held more map points than me.

[rainy]

I should be able to make it at around 9 - just give me some instructions as to how and where to meet. But beware - I am still new... ;)

useless - yes, I got the full 1.41 patch, which is actually 330 megs. It was either that or download all the single patches, which would have been about the same bandwidth...

[doobiwan]

Just a word of caution, I had to set up port forwarding through my router, which took a while, so if you need to, get going a bit earlier. Check out www.portforward.com

[Ruslan74]

@ everybody - we can meet on MSN and try to have SKype hosted by somebody other than the DoW server host.

AFAIK turtling is done best with the Eldar as they can build portals and turrets by critical control points.

If its going to be 4 of us then i would think 2 vs 2 match or if only 3 make it in time then a quick free for all on a 4 player map?

[doobiwan]

Sounds good. I nominate someone else's machine as host. I'm only running a poor ole xp2000 . . .

[Ruslan74]

i cant host. i am on ISDN and it would bog down under your ADSL pressure. :p

but for a 1 vs 1 i can host without issues, but then you would have to host Skype. ;)

[fivel]

i cant host. i am on ISDN and it would bog down under your ADSL pressure. :p

but for a 1 vs 1 i can host without issues, but then you would have to host Skype. ;)

I'll host skype....how would I do that????

[rainy]

Sorry guys - I can't make it tonight. Having some trouble with our munchkin. :/ Looks like you'll have to make do with a threesome...

[Ruslan74]

@ Fivel - you just call the other guys from your PC first. ;)

@ RN65 - no probs. hope your munchkin gets better!

[rainy]

Thanks useless. I hope so too :)

[doobiwan]

Ice cream. Does the trick every time. ;)

[rainy]

OK, i'll go have some :p

[Ruslan74]

@ Doobiwan and Fivel - thanks for the games last night, great fun and a tad hectic in the threesome free-for-all. Will watch the replays tonight just to pinpoint the weaknesses in your strategies, a good challenge is always welcome! ;)

[doobiwan]

There are no weaknesses in my Strategy. I have no strategy, ha! ;)

Seriously though, I'd love some pointers.

[Ruslan74]

ok. here goes what i know :

All Races

- build Listening Posts ( LPs ) on every Strategic Point ( SP ) you can capture

- never have too much money, spend it on units or upgrades, having your coffers full wont help you from being overrun

- expand, expand, expand

Orks vs Eldar

- you have to get close and personal, use your Hero's teleport function to entangle Reapers in CC and Stormboyz to jump for some CC choppa fun.

- never play the long range shooting match with any other race with ork infantry even if you outnumber the enemy.

- get Trakks ASAP, they chew enemy infantry very nicely

- get Noobz ASAP within your squads or even better, Noobz squadz are the meanest CC infantry in the whole game.

Space Marines vs Eldar

- Use your FC to CC reapers/spiders thus negating Eldar ranged firepower

- dance your SM/Scouts from Eldar Farseer if you can

- concentrate firepower on single enemy units, dont disperse it on all enemy units, ie. shoot at one enemy squad while FC is busy melee'ing other enemy squads

- in Tier 2 scout sniper rifles can break ANY enemy infantry with at least 2-3 scout squads

- get your Cult Machine up & running in Tier 2 to produce the formidable CC Dreadnaught

CC = Close Combat

ask me more anytime... :p

[rainy]

OK, I think I'll play some skirmishes against the CPU first... :p

[fivel]

There are no weaknesses in my Strategy. I have no strategy, ha! ;)

Seriously though, I'd love some pointers.

I am with you there doobs, I keep getting the message 'you have been anahilated' when playing useless.

Check out the dawn of war forums http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=139 .

I found some great advice..also check out the archives for recordings of other games.

[fivel]

OK, I think I'll play some skirmishes against the CPU first... :p

Noo RN, doobs and I need all the help we can get when playing useless, we can gang up on him!!!

[Ruslan74]

hey, i wasnt that mean.. i at least gave them time to defend themselves... :rolleyes:

we need a 4th person RN65 so we can do 2 vs 2 one night... ;)

[rainy]

Point taken :)

Edit: a2vs2 at this point would be highly unfair towards anyone playing on my side :p

[fivel]

hey, i wasnt that mean.. i at least gave them time to defend themselves... :rolleyes:

we need a 4th person RN65 so we can do 2 vs 2 one night... ;)

I think wth 3 v 1 we may have a chance!!!

[Ruslan74]

Noo RN, doobs and I need all the help we can get when playing useless, we can gang up on him!!!

now 3 dudes will be harder to handle... yikes.. can i have a AI budy at least?

[doobiwan]

100% Five!!! ;)

[Ruslan74]

I see now... never underestimate the Eldar... they might just pop a surprise or two against you puny humans and orks!

:p

[doobiwan]

Yeah like the fact that they all just cross dressing fairies! ;)

[Ruslan74]

right right... herewith some feedback after seeing last night's replays of the threesome games we played :

From Doobi's side :

- dont reinforce your initial units until your hero and 2 squads of your main force are out, or else your main force deployment will suffer a delay in the initial stages of the game

- capture all the SP's around your base and build LP's on them ASAP, this boost your income by an extra 20% per SP

- when playing imperial guard use the bunkers to your advantage, you can move troops within those bunkers to other of your buildings without taking the troops out

Now Fivel's turn :

- do not throw single squads into the grinder against superior forces, rather build up and send them all at once to get superior numbers on your favour

- when you do send those squads into war use the FC as a primary melee fighter to attract enemy fire and use your squads to concentrate their fire on single enemy squads to kill them faster

- dont build flame throwers as SM are poor at melee, rather get them bolters or build Assault Space Marines and JUMP them into the rear of the enemy to take out their ranged troops

- queue your scouts to capture SP after SP or else you loose precious seconds while they stay idle

Thats all i can say after seeing the replays, hope to catch you online more often for some more DoW! :D

[doobiwan]

Thanks dude. How do you queue commands, shift?

[Ruslan74]

yip, with SHIFT... just like Nissan... SHIFT Expectations... :D

[doobiwan]

*Doobi gives useless a shifty glance . . .*

[fivel]

I got forked by useless' orks last nite....it was ugly :-(

[Ruslan74]

da boyz ruled da puny humanz... pretty bloody and plain fruity brutal i must add... nothing like the drink. :p

[doobiwan]

Orks win by numbers right?

[Ruslan74]

yip. a green blob was all that Fivel saw coming towards him... orks have the funniest comeback lines though... hehehehe

[fivel]

It was as though I brought a knife to a gun fight....I don't know whether it was numbers.....but useless pwned me.

[doobiwan]

Heavy Bolters I imagine would do the trick

[Ruslan74]

yes it is, but you need some kind of meatshield between the heavy bolters and the orks or else they close in pretty fast...

[Ruslan74]

Right, Fivel and myself are eager for a few DoW vanilla or WA games later tonight before trying to hunt for Stoke in BF2.

Anybody else have the urge to feel the Boyz stinky breath? :p

[doobiwan]

Doh, should have read this yesterday ;)

Maybe Sunday night?

[Ruslan74]

Sunday evening sounds fine for me... hope Fivel sees this thread before monday too... :p

[doobiwan]

Doh! In a fit of excitement, my wife decide we need to do some building! So we (by taht I mean me . . .) spend the whole of last night doing a re-org on the house to get stuff out the way, so they can bash holes in things :(

Will definitely try to squeeze a round or two in this week . .

[Ruslan74]

lol.. well my rounds with Fivel were numerous but short, didnt play much though... sometime this week it would be cool to have you all in one match. :p

[doobiwan]

Maybe tonight, we see.

i'm a whipped man, I can play when my wife says so ;)

[Ruslan74]

how about we agree before hand to say WEDNESDAY 18th of Jan 2006 for around 9PM?

How does that sound?

[doobiwan]

Builders are now officially working at my place, so my PC is a bit inaccessible, I may not be able to play this week :( Even BF2 !!!

[Ruslan74]

eish... so does it look like the Cement Factory flag by your place ATM? :p

[Darnit696]

Ask Stoke for help... he knows how to get cement ... fast... and instant lawn for that matter...to give your PC room that outdoorsy feel :D

[doobiwan]

Heh heh, yeah, except where there'd be a ToW, there's ball pond . . .

[Ruslan74]

Right. Anybody for DoW:WA for the weekend?

Anybody?

:o

[fivel]

Right. Anybody for DoW:WA for the weekend?

Anybody?

:o

Your ever-ready cannon fodder will report as per usual to die at the hands of you orks, elder, choas marines!!

[Ruslan74]

thats the spirit Space Marine! :D

[doobiwan]

I'll do my orkiest to get a round or two in :D

[TG]

d-orkiest?

:)