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Agent Green
5th June 2006, 06:53 PM
Hi Folks

I am on a course this week so I will be scarce until NEXT weekend...

PLease post here if you are keen to join us - a requirement is that you have ascended - i.e. so you can access the correct area.,

Also state if you are noob at this like me or are a non-noob joining to help us noobs :)

AG

Paragon
5th June 2006, 07:47 PM
i'll deffenitly join u :D

i have been to grenth's footprint and to Tomb's but without very much success :p heven't been able to get to SF yet so....

will try and get a build ready by the time tis happens :)

Mairiiv
5th June 2006, 07:58 PM
I would definately be interested, I'm available this week till wednesday evening then only some time this weekend, don't know when yet.

gus
5th June 2006, 09:43 PM
I can help you guys get to SF. The Tomb's basically needs a specialist team, but we can certainly give it a try.

Mairiiv
6th June 2006, 08:01 AM
where is SF?

gus
6th June 2006, 09:00 AM
Sorrow's Furnace. It is in the southern shiverpeaks, north of Droknar's Forge. It is the original source of green items and was added as an addon to Guildwars in about September/October last year.

Vexx007
6th June 2006, 10:49 AM
I will join you guys. Me and Paragon had bad luck last night with no green dropps in SF. We where both trying "new" builds so we sucked a bit (me more than he :p). I still want a Ragos Staff/Wand.

Mairiiv
6th June 2006, 05:12 PM
Vexx I just got to Deldimor WarCamp, I'll be online tonight as wel if you two wanna try farming again, will probably get online at about 7-7:30 ish

Vexx007
7th June 2006, 10:16 AM
Mairiiv, I will be on tonight. Did you farm last night?

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 10:25 AM
we farmed and Paragon got a green, we weren't that successful

gus
7th June 2006, 10:57 AM
Yes, we had fairly bad luck. And then in SF we built up too much death penalty. In the end there were 6 monsters between me and the rest of the party that was all dead, so I could not get at them with rebirth. I was able to pop the two rangers. But there was a mesmer and a priest close together, so my mesmer did not have a chance, since I had only limited healing, so we had to give up, since Paragon and Mairiiv was on about 60% DP.

At least Paragon got the one green. :D

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 11:04 AM
what do you guys think would be a good build for SF, I'm a W/*, got a L17 pet for my ranger counter and otherwise most of the mesmer skills....

gus
7th June 2006, 11:38 AM
What got us last night was the wells of suffering:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Well_of_Suffering

I got killed in the well once when I was so distracted by all the allianze chat that I did not even see I was loosing health like crazy, but fortunately not again, after that, after I switched off allianze chat.

The problem is that if we all stand in the well, the whole party has -5 health degen and there is no way the monks can keep up. We have to step back out of the wells, or the party is all killed in no time.

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 12:02 PM
ok so that's what happened the first time....

b.tw. guys if I'm busy fighting I don't read the chat area, so if I don't great or respond I'm either afk or busy fighting monsters and thus havn't seen the msg

Pios
7th June 2006, 12:35 PM
While Well of suffering is bad Well of Profane is worse imo ..

gus
7th June 2006, 12:45 PM
While Well of suffering is bad Well of Profane is worse imo ..

I agree they are worse, being more of a magic user myself. Especially for a 55 hp mesmer or monk. :D But warriors do not notice them as much.

Pios
7th June 2006, 01:02 PM
They do when there MENDING STOPS working ..

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 01:13 PM
I agree they are worse, being more of a magic user myself. Especially for a 55 hp mesmer or monk. :D But warriors do not notice them as much.

not notice it, I notice extremely fast when I cant do any of my attacks....my build consist of the elite skil where you get energy per successful attack and then some energy using attacks....I moved away from the adrenaline based sword attacks as the ones I liked all worked at their optimum against foes with flesh....

gus
7th June 2006, 01:31 PM
They do when there MENDING STOPS working ..

lol, yes, that is very true.

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 02:11 PM
In preperation for tonight, what would you guys think to be a good SF build? I'm a W with sword specialisation got a 15-22 damage sword with 15 % damage, Then I have a shield with 16 armour and -2 Damage taken when enchanted. I also have 2 good hammers for if I move to Hammer mastery. Then as secondary profesions, I was a Me so I have a lot of mesmer skills, as wel I have for Ranger a L17 pet lizard with the basic ranger skills. I'm willing to buy some monk skills if you guys think I should take monk...

Vexx007
7th June 2006, 03:26 PM
Which green did Parrapa the Rappa get? :D:D:D

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 03:32 PM
I have no idea he didn't tell us....

Pios
7th June 2006, 03:33 PM
My suggestions

Warrior/Ranger

Skills:
1. Riposte
2. Deadly Riposte
3. Troll Unegent
4. Melundru's Resilieance
5. Dolyak Signet
6. Healing Sig
7. Savage Slash
8. Seeking blade

Attributes
12 Wilderness
12 Tactics
9 Swords
9 Str
Sup Vigor
Sup Absorb
Minor Swords
Minor Tactics
Major Str

If i recall.
That you can tank till the cows come home.
Ask paragon if you dont belive me .. he seen me do it.

Vexx007
7th June 2006, 03:34 PM
Mairiiv, I know Pios uses a build that can solo SF, and he is a W/R.

Some of the skills I remeber are:

Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Troll unguent
Melandru's Resilience
Healing Sig
Savage Slash
Dolyak Sig
Seeking Blade

EDIT: Pios beat me to it :)

Dont know the attributes though.

Pios
7th June 2006, 03:45 PM
There IS another build but with anymore than 30ms lag you WILL die.
Its a Elementalist/Necro build.

But I loath to give you that one. Since you will only blmae me for dieing on your super fast ZA connections.

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 03:52 PM
thanks I'll make a note of it and try it

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 04:03 PM
There IS another build but with anymore than 30ms lag you WILL die.
Its a Elementalist/Necro build.

But I loath to give you that one. Since you will only blmae me for dieing on your super fast ZA connections.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It would stil be interesting to know what the build is, but it's good to know that you need extremely fast response for such a build

Vexx007
7th June 2006, 04:17 PM
Yes Pios. dont be shy.

Pios
7th June 2006, 04:19 PM
It is a strange build requireing you to arcane mimic a spell from a ally and use that, if you get it wrong you die.

Mairiiv
7th June 2006, 04:27 PM
stil for me it's interesting to know different builds as wel as what they are called, their type....I've heard of a tank build but until I've played this one you posted earlier I'd have no idea as how it is, I've also heard of things like a spike build but I have no idea what it pertains to.

I've changed my build 2/3 times from pre searing to after ascention.....so I've got no experience with builds. I am in my first round of playing the game

Paragon
7th June 2006, 04:34 PM
1. I got the Razorstone and sold it for 20k last night :D :woohoo:

(thanx to the guys that hepled me :) )

2. That build really works...i can tank them now...just need to get the timings right to do the dmg ;)

it is a brilliant and really effective build and melandrus resslience is reeaaallly easy to cap - i did it in no more than 15 min.witjh henchies :p

will be there again tonight so... :D

Pios
7th June 2006, 04:37 PM
Ok,

Here is the basic idea behind the build I posted.

You agro ONE group at a time,
once you have agro, You need to kill in this order.
Melee, Ranged, Necro, then the ice golems
If there is a heretic in the mix, it is the first target.

Since you will always be in a stance (90% of the time)
YOu need a +45//-2 in stance shield
also You will need a +60/-3 while hexed shield
This is your MAIN shield.
since you will be hexed 95% of the time the extra health helps a bit.

Ok here goes for the HOWTO
1st, Agro the group, as soon as you get a hex throw up melundru's
then close to hit with sword.
as soon as you hit use dolyak signet.
then cast troll unegent.
And keep hitting the stuff with your one attack
as soon as melundru is ready re-cast it.
same with dolyak
you dont mind getting hexed since you will be at +12 or so regen when hexed anyways

If you want a demo let me know I will try show you.

Vexx007
7th June 2006, 04:40 PM
Have you guys found Rago Kindlerock yet?

Para, you are one lucky son-of-a-gun!

Scooby_Doo16
7th June 2006, 06:54 PM
How do u guys change your 2nd class...? Can u?

gus
7th June 2006, 07:00 PM
How do u guys change your 2nd class...? Can u?

After you have ascended, there are quests you can do in the desert to change your secondary profession.

Mairiiv
8th June 2006, 09:31 AM
How did the farming go yesterday night guys, any luck? Sorry about the disconnections the internet just kept dropping

gus
8th June 2006, 09:46 AM
We had crap luck again. We got stuck against two bosses together in SF. We had plenty tanking capabilities, but very little damage dealing (3 x Mo, 2 x W, 1 x E and 1 x R), so we kept on dying there. Did not get a single green. I think a gold ax was the best drop. Then we did another run just of the outside part and I got a green. It was a monk item which I have already picked up, so I gave it to Paragon, since he was the only other party member who has a monk.

Sorry about your connection hassles.

Pios
8th June 2006, 11:40 AM
I got some greens last night too, but not the item kind i am afraid :(

Stool
8th June 2006, 04:00 PM
my 1 cent?

well we need to concentrate from tonight to get more guild members tru all the missions so we can all hunt together for these green items.i got a lvl16 warrior smoking dope at divinity coast and lvl9 monk at piken (damn slow char).what ye all say?

rainy
9th June 2006, 08:04 AM
I have a lvl20 Ranger waiting to get ascended...

gus
9th June 2006, 09:44 AM
Then get off your butt and go beat yourself up. :D Virtually of course.

Mairiiv
9th June 2006, 09:45 AM
my 1 cent?

well we need to concentrate from tonight to get more guild members tru all the missions so we can all hunt together for these green items.i got a lvl16 warrior smoking dope at divinity coast and lvl9 monk at piken (damn slow char).what ye all say?

I say that's a good idea, I've also got a L11 Monk I think is Shiver peaks. I'm almost through the Prophecies campaign with my warrior, when I'm through(hopefully somewhere this weekend) I'll start to work on getting my monk further....

Pios
9th June 2006, 01:37 PM
Do we have a few people that want to do missions this afternoon/evening ?

Mairiiv
9th June 2006, 01:57 PM
I'll have a look if and when I'm online whether there is ppl that want some help. I myself need ring of fire with my main character, and there-on.

Agent Green
9th June 2006, 10:54 PM
Hi ALL

Just to let you know I am still on course and will be up for much farming once it is over. This coming Thursday i have leave just so i can cacth up a bit.

Over the duration of the course, I cannot play games, watch TV, eat any animal products, have any stimulants like coffee, sugar, cocaine etc. :)

I feel irritable, i am gonna go and kick the dog now.

G'night

AG

gus
10th June 2006, 12:26 AM
As long as you do not eat the dog, given that it is an animal product. :D

Vexx007
12th June 2006, 10:17 AM
Lol! Nice one gkm :D

When did AG change his name?

Agent Green
12th June 2006, 07:56 PM
hehe

@vexx: I changed it a while back, Zn0916 was a default BF2 name, I feel that Agent Green is a truer reflection of my inner being, although my inner being is probably more red and pink lol

AG

gus
13th June 2006, 08:55 AM
@Paragon: I can see why you have trouble getting the shield. I killed the boss (Sunreach Warmaker) once with hench so that I at least know whwre he is, and I was at 60% DP when I finally got him.

Pios
13th June 2006, 11:28 AM
What shield ?

gus
13th June 2006, 12:20 PM
I assume Paragon is looking for:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Sunreach%27s_Shield

I guess we should not tell him that he can buy the same shield here, even if it is not as pretty:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Manzo

I helped Paragon to kill the boss one more time. We had to grind down the "minnions" first, so was at 60% DP for a while, but again no shield.

Pios
13th June 2006, 12:51 PM
that shield is useless,
the -5 sounds great in theory,
but it equates to a -1 always shield.

I think I will stick to my -2 stance, and -3 hexed shields

Just my thoughts

Vexx007
13th June 2006, 01:17 PM
Last night I got me N/Me ascended and capped SS. I think the farming will go a bit faster now (hopefully).

On my wishlist now are:
* Ragos Flame Wand
* The Kindlerock
* Villnars Claw
* Villnars Glove

It just keeps growing and growing.....

gus
13th June 2006, 01:43 PM
They seemed to have made green items the right colour. Greed is such a bad sin. :D

Pios
13th June 2006, 01:45 PM
Tell you what,

I will sell those to you,
special guild discount brings the price tag down to 100k + 25 ecto

gus
13th June 2006, 03:39 PM
@Paragon: I can give you the two shells you need for this shield. As far as I know warriors like it very much:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Lord_Dorn_Lendrigen

@Pios: Nooooo, now Vexx007 will will just want to go on farming expeditions all the time.

Pios
13th June 2006, 04:01 PM
@GKM: I think .... that well, i farm stuff every day ... SOLO... everyone should try to do it ...

Vexx007
13th June 2006, 04:32 PM
So, gkm, when are we farming? 400k and 100 ectos should be a problem.......:rofl:

Pios
13th June 2006, 04:36 PM
Lets see,

I spent in the last few weeks about 1 mill in gold on stuff(Skills/Armor/Other crap)

I am skint.... I need to get my bank balance back up from the measely 200k i have now :(

So, anyone that wana come farm with me I will be hitting UW this evening I think..............:cry: :rofl:

Paragon
13th June 2006, 04:43 PM
hehe...this thead has moved a bit :p

yea, i saw one could get the same shield from collectors...but it's sooo uuugly ;)

thanx again for the help gkm...just bad luck :)

my sf farming has been left behind for farming chkkr ironclaw and the sunreach fellow: i want to sell the Ironclaw and really get that shield for myself :D

but i am still game for SF :p

capped grenth's balance last night...what r ur opinions of this skill...any good? =)

Pios
13th June 2006, 04:50 PM
I may give you a build to use it with ..

Paragon
13th June 2006, 04:56 PM
coolio, thanx :)

at this point i have it with the Ripostes, and the Stance...as well as their friend Healing sig :p

but a build would be greatly appreciateted ;)

Pios
13th June 2006, 05:00 PM
I meant a build for Balance !!

gus
13th June 2006, 05:01 PM
@Paragon: then you must start getting a real character, like a mesmer. :D :D

Pios
13th June 2006, 05:03 PM
@Gus: yea real men have gay characters ...!!!!!!

Paragon
13th June 2006, 05:07 PM
lol

@this point i have my w. my mo and my mesmer is lvl2 in shing jea :p

gus
13th June 2006, 06:55 PM
Yes, it takes like exactly 20 seconds to get to level 2 in Factions. :D

Paragon
13th June 2006, 07:01 PM
20 sec...wowowow...how??? please u must tell me ;)

no, but seriously...i will start working on that char.now that i have finished factiojns with my other 2 :)

gus
14th June 2006, 08:26 AM
20 sec...wowowow...how??? please u must tell me ;)


As far as I can remember:
- Talk to the guy when you appear for the first time after creating the character.
- Talk to the trainer and tell him you do not need any training
- Talk to the gate guard to enter the monastery. He gives 2K XP which makes you level 2.

It took me longer to type this than it takes to reach level 2 in factions. :D

Vexx007
14th June 2006, 03:35 PM
Soooo, any farmers out there tonight?

Pios
14th June 2006, 03:38 PM
I may have time for one queen run this evening ...

Vexx007
14th June 2006, 03:46 PM
Not too much time then I presume :D

Pios
14th June 2006, 03:46 PM
8-9 mins max

Vexx007
14th June 2006, 03:51 PM
tight schedule there bro! :rofl:

Pios
14th June 2006, 04:00 PM
i like tight things ...

stoke
14th June 2006, 04:28 PM
:hurl:

Pios
14th June 2006, 04:38 PM
like the timings when i solo farm the next to imposible places i go to ... rude mind you got there stoke !!!

Darnit696
17th June 2006, 09:00 AM
If everyone gets to go "farming" who buys this stuff and pays the obscene amounts of money that are being bandied around here like small change...?

gus
17th June 2006, 01:19 PM
Other farmers mostly. :D

-FX-
19th June 2006, 08:53 AM
Well I went on a little farming mission this weekend... and the in one mission, 6 greens were dropped - one for every member of the team. In total, I collected 6 for myself and thats over about 4 missions in the same area. Some of the items included.... Razorstone, Somedudes Stone Smasher, Brophsomethingorother's Staff. As you can see didn't really memorise the names very well hehe :D One staff had a +30 health +30 health +30 health... yup +30x3... pretty wicked

Pios
19th June 2006, 10:03 AM
That is a really nice staff :)

Vexx007
19th June 2006, 11:57 AM
FX, where did this little session take place?