Blackberry Bold 9000

[Punky3025]

I have had the misfortune to own one of these bastard phones. So I am going to have a good old rant about it here and the the rest of you will learn from my stupidity or at least give me the satisfaction of being able to say I wrote you so.

My phone is six months old. I have never had any great love for it. It was supposed to solve all the call dropping problems...it hasn't / didn't / couldn't.

Two weeks ago the "ringer"speaker got so soft I could hardly hear it. Anyone who makes a comment about old men and hearing in this thread is going to die a horrible horrible death !. It is not / was not /could be not my hearing. I therefore took my phone down to good old Vodacom customer lack of service.

As fate would have it I got to stand in the queue behind a rather well spoken black fella. Guess what he was coming to collect his.....wait for it.....Blackberry Bold 9000. As I stood behind him I got to hear the technician tell this poor fellow that his phone was beyond repair due to water damage. He got vey upset with the news claiming that there was no way his phone could be wate damaged. The techy then began to explain that even sweat could cause water damaged. It was about at this point the my "bull dust o meter" went into overtime and flattened two lithium batteries and broke a siren.

Guess what happened to me today. I get an sms claiming my phone is ready for collection but is beyond repair. I phoned them and asked why a brand new phone with barley a scratch on it can be beyond repair.....wait for it....water damage.

I will hence have to accept the truth. Clearly I have a drooling problem. That coupled with the exessive bodily fuilds that clearly pour from my ducts like that intelligent little animal Babe. OMW I must be related to Blinky, Drooly, sweaty, cute, intelligent with snorting on the side. Blinky just never got the cute.

This is BS. Blackberry is indeed blackberry, now I know why. They suck, or at least this specific models sucks. So in short unless you have the sweatless, pours of a baby's bottom or the cool venier of the German fella we all know. Steer clear of the wetberry. Personally I think it is the easiest trick in the book to avoid responsibility.
Step 1 .Ensure that only you may open your product.

Step 2. Take photo's of all the products you gave out to the govenment departments which have been returned with the caption '"Eish brooken"

Step 3 . Lie your way out of paying for crappy products.

Thanks for reading

and no TG I won't buy another one.

[sss]

There's sposed to be a sticker by by the battery for water damage, if that one hasnt turned colour then how can the ones on the inside turn !

[Flatty]

Punky, it's not just the Wetberry - they do it with all makes of phone. It's the standard copout & unless you had the presence of mind to actually have your phone checked out elsewhere (electronics engineer) and recorded the numbers on your IC's, PC boards, ect, before you took it to them they can just swap it out with something that was actually water damaged. They can always just dunk it in a glass of water & you'll be none the wiser.

The PC industry has taken a while to evolve, and one of the things that really inspired me to get into it was the BS they were feeding people who had difficulty telling a RAM module from a Hard Disk Drive. That exposé they did on Carte Blanche proves the dodginess continues. I'm all for making a buck, but when it comes to ripping off Joe Soap that has a wife and kids to support, I draw the line at dodginess. Don't get me wrong, if I'm not taking food off your plate, I'll pull any move under the sun, but we're all battling to live our lives - why should I contribute to your misery?

I had a friend who did a course in cell phone repair. I'll never take another phone to him, but he told me that the water damage thing is the standard line they're instructed to use. Yes, you sweat like a pig, because this is Africa: The sweat permeates your shirt pocket & infiltrates your phone, right through the protective leather covering you bought for it. :p Mmmm, funny how this dude still managed to use his phone to call the emergency services with his phone after he'd been in the water with his cellphone for more than 10 minutes.

[TG]

and no TG I won't buy another one.

I will never recommend a shitberry to anyone. I hate the damn things.

[GeroW4lll]

...was beyond repair due to water damage....

Guess what happened to me today. I get an sms claiming my phone is ready for collection but is beyond repair. I phoned them and asked why a brand new phone with barley a scratch on it can be beyond repair.....wait for it....water damage.




There's sposed to be a sticker by by the battery for water damage, if that one hasnt turned colour then how can the ones on the inside turn !


Punky, it's not just the Wetberry - they do it with all makes of phone.

I used to sell the labels they put in Nokia's. (Brady makes the labels that Nokia uses) They contain Cobalt Chloride. If Cobalt Chloride doesn't turn red, then there isn't water there. AMEN! We did the same test with white dehydrated Copper Sulphate in standard six remember? That turns blue when there's water. These two tests are standardised and recognised by science.

These asses just always say that. In Afrikaans we say: "Jou bek staan al soos waterskade!"

My brother had an expensive smart-phone that stopped working. He was told it's water damage. He took it home and fiddled with it. After a while he managed to reboot the software and the thing started working like normal.

If they said beyond economical repair it would make sense.

Few things make me as aggressive as a bold faced lie that I should be dumb enough to believe.

Punky I say take the phone back there and tell the guy he better fix it, and not say any word starting with W, if he doesn't want you to beat his face in with it.

[Arbythep00nage]

I worked in cellular for a few years, that is the standard cop out. Punky send your phone to me an Im sure I will be able to fix it. otherwise fight with them, they will sort it out in the end. They are allowed to call liquid damage if they can see it under a microscope so just be aware of that...
At one stage 80% of phones in vodacare were claimed to be liquid damaged.
Otherwise if you want to save yourself pain then go a local electronics place that does cell repairs and get them to fix it.

[Souper]

of course one could always return to the store in question with a nice big coolie in hand (because you're apparently such a sweaty lad) and ask the kind salesperson to lay out their top of the range BlackBerrys on the counter so you can choose which one you would like to replace your water damaged phone and... 'Oops silly me I bumped my cool drink ALL OVER your phones. Now THAT's water damage.' Exit left.

[Punky3025]

The thing is insured. Now I have to go throught the pain of getting another phone. Not blackberry I can assure you

[Voicy]

When you find a phone that doesn't have a touchscreen/flap/slider/stylus and doesn't have a useless OS, please let me know as well. I need one too.

I'm seriously considering going back to my 3310 (if only it weren't for the 15sms inbox limit)

[GeroW4lll]

It should be impossible to see water once it's gone, even under a microscope. If the sticker ain't red, there never was water. Microscopic or otherwise. Microscopic water should be less that what's needed to damage a phone.

[WingNut]

Nokia 6210 and then 6310 were the ultimate phones.

[Voicy]

Nokia 6210 and then 6310 were the ultimate phones.

Their battery life brought all the boys to the yard. We still use one of them at work for that exact reason. We take it with us when we spend extensive time in the Transkei. When my 4x4's battery dies, I just jump start it with the 6210's battery.

Also, Mercedes had a car kit in their C-class just for that model. Has to say something.

[rainy]

The 6310 was awesome. Robust, easy to use, reliable and the battery life was out of this world.

[Hoss]

.... When my 4x4's battery dies, I just jump start it with the 6210's battery. ....

:rofl:

[senorblinky]

Nokia e71
Has all the capabilities of a smartphone, you can get email, watch youtube movies, and updates your social networks.
The battery, on standby, also lasts for up to 8 days.
All the goodness of a smartphone, packed into the ease of use of the nokia symbian operating system.

Drawbacks? I can't think of any at the moment. Personally, i would've like a bigger screen, but they're about as big as the standard BB anyway.

I used to use a Nokia e71 until I upgraded to a Motorola Milestone (Motorola is a client). I enjoy using the milestone, it has an enormous screen and wonderful apps on the market place, but i get the feeling you musn't bother with smarphones. Something that can make and receive calls, send and receive SMSs and send and receive emails is all you need, and THAT you can find in the reliability of a Nokia.

And BTW, I can't help i didn't get the cute, at least i'm taller than a hobbit.

[Flatty]

What I like about Nokias is the fact that they can take a beating, too.

[Darnit696]

Nokia 6210 and then 6310 were the ultimate phones.

I've still got mine. I lend them out to Drusky and Punky when their phones break. :Dhttp://share.ovi.com/media/Darnit696.mymedia/darnit696.10001

[Voicy]

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y372/VoicyZA/punkyover9000.jpg

[Arbythep00nage]

Voicy if it would let me rep you again then I would, but it wont :(

[Flatty]

Sometimes I have no fecking idea what you okes are on about & I'm just too lazy to Google it. :p

[GeroW4lll]

Voiceh you are the win, but I can't rep you any more :(

[Souper]

waaaaay too much time on your hands there Voicy. Punky's superhero outfit actually has red shoulder pads though....

ps - I'd give you some of that no-good-for-legal-tender rep stuff, but I don't know how :)

[Voicy]

waaaaay too much time on your hands there Voicy. Punky's superhero outfit actually has red shoulder pads though....

ps - I'd give you some of that no-good-for-legal-tender rep stuff, but I don't know how :)

I'm sorry souper. :o

I'll try draw it with better detail next time. It's not that easy to draw that entire sketch in MS-Paint. :sad:

[TG]

ps - I'd give you some of that no-good-for-legal-tender rep stuff, but I don't know how :)

Wow! I found this nifty FAQ Item (http://www.wargeeks.org/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_giverep)!

[Nitty]

So that's what the smart ass comment is about :gno:

[Souper]

Wow! I found this nifty FAQ Item (http://www.wargeeks.org/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_giverep)!

mmm - like all males of the species, i never read the manual...

[Nitty]

Isn't that the truth? Omega did the same yesterday and it cost him a pretty penny. If only men would learn :rolleyes:

[Souper]

simply put - if it isn't obvious how to work it/assemble it, then it should have been made different to begin with so that it IS obvious. Mankind is merely the testing ground for intuitive design.

[senorblinky]

Isn't that the truth? Omega did the same yesterday and it cost him a pretty penny. If only men would learn :rolleyes:

Omega?

[Nitty]

That tall thin guy that's always hanging with me :wink:

[senorblinky]

That tall thin guy that's always hanging with me :wink:

I thought that was Gala, and if he's not, i kinda like Gala, this Omega chap seems like bad news, a bit of a loose canon, a renegade... a MAVERICK!
Just wondering if we shouldn't change oom Deon's name on the Forums as well - or is he still happy with Omega? Just a suggestion, and my attempt to derail.

[Nitty]

Omega is a maverick :rofl: Are we talking about the same person? :p

I think that's a brilliant plan Senor! He's Galapagoz in SC2 now as well, so I think he'll be happy with Gala on the forums. Not that he visits us often. I think I need to implement the :chair:

[senorblinky]

Coolio, will speak to management :D

---------- Post added at 10:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:56 AM ----------

Spoke to Management - it's done.
Omega is now Gala - but i mean, a legend by any other name is still a legend.

[TotalWar]

I thought this was about a cell phone, you two need to get a room of your own.

By the way, I am only posting because of this lovely message I got today.

"It seems you haven't posted in a while... why not? Are we that scary? Don't have anything to say? Never mind... just go post something. Anything. Go on... we don't bite... ...Hard. :-)"

I doubt Nitty Or Blinky has ever seen this message. :rofl: Also If i get honeypotted once more I am leaving. 6/10 days I am not allowed to post for some reason.

[TG]

Dude.. if you get honeypotted there's a link to say you're not a bot. Obviously you must be a bot, since you don't see the link. :p

And you're getting honeypotted cuz yer IP is dodgy.

[TotalWar]

I know but when I say I am not a bot I can read everything on the site but not post. Its fine it appears whatever system I use I am dodgy.

I should just accept it. :)

[Nitty]

We know you're dodgy TW :shrug:

And please tell us who wants to bite you :beg:

[TotalWar]

If you knew I was dodgy Nitty you could have said something earlier. Is that not what friends are for? At least now I do not have to hide it anymore.

Also who ever wants to bite me i wish they would do it already, I have not been bitten in a while. :D

[Punky3025]

I got a Samsung Wave. So far so good

[Flatty]

I got a Logitech Wave :p

[TG]

I've got Google Wave, but it's being shut down :(

[Arbythep00nage]

punky you bought a samsung? prepare for heartache. Unless of course its an android phone in which case you can prepare for the loving it gives out.

[Voicy]

I would've given you my LG for free, Punky. It's terribad!

[Arbythep00nage]

Voicy you will be pleased to know I am getting another touch screen phone today. Actually you wont be pleased cos you hate them. Some dude didnt like touchscreen so I swopped my N95 for it. Too bad its a samsung though. Android FTW!

[Voicy]

Ogganice me a kief phone plox :(

[Arbythep00nage]

voicor arent you due for an upgrade?

[Voicy]

voicor arent you due for an upgrade?

gnope - July next year. :sadpanda:

[sss]

anti apples must be punished!

[Askari]

Punky. I think you maybe just ended up with a dodge unit and you had dodge service from Vodascum. My BB 9000 has worked flawlessly for a long time now. In fact driving in a car with a guy with an e80 (i think) through the Northwest into Botswana and on to Swakopmund in Namibia my BB picked up the cell signal first, had more signal strength throughout and held onto it longer. The phone itself has not given me a seconds trouble other then the trackball but thats cos its prolly not designed for dirty construction workers...

I actually have two of them, one and Voda and one on MTN and I find in general MTN has better coverage.

Yes the iphone is cooler, the new HTC Desire? my brother just bought over from the UK is even cooler the BB is the ultimate biz phone IMHO.

[senorblinky]

I actually have two of them, one and Voda and one on MTN and I find in general MTN has better coverage.


Quoting for posterity :D

[Flatty]

Quoting for posterity :D

The marketing guru :p

I don't like Samsung at all. I had a client/friend who had one & all he did was moan about the thing - dodgy volume. Maybe it was a one off but then a friend phones me from the other side of the country on a relatively new Samsung & the sound is going loud & soft. I'm thinking I'm going deaf so I'm popping my ears until I work out that the problem is on her end.

I'll only ever buy a Nokia or a Sony Ericsson.

[Arbythep00nage]

I have a Samsung galaxy spica that runs android. Its quite nice having a speedy proc and 4 days battery life. I dont like samsung phones as a general rule though.

[Souper]

i'm with you on the samsung phones - i had one a few years ago (the D600) and 6 months into the contract wanted nothing more than to throw the thing into the sea. Of course they found "nothing wrong with the phone" but went back to Nokia pronto. In the end the Samsung was stolen while on loan to a friend. Poor dief, crime really doesn't pay :)

Will never chance another Samsung phone, which is a pity because their other electronic products are pretty solid.

[Voicy]

Maybe your friend thought the phone was so sucky that he threw it in the sea himself out of anger, but then told you it was stolen instead. :p