Spawn Raping ...

[Bass]

A comment that RB made about spawnraping makes me think it would be worthwhile discussing this a bit more ...

The context - we played late last night (small teams on large map) & our side had all the flags except their spawn point (untakeable), so we drove over to their base and started creating havoc there .. Myself, Bushmanlambada & XXX-SSS were there amongst others, so were hopping into buggies to "practice driving skills" , putting C4 onto jets etc ..

That lasted for 5-10 mins before the round ended (I think..) during which the other side (that RB was on) capped some other flags again ...

After the match I said ciao, went to bed and saw the comments today ..

From the shoutbox..
[14 Hours Ago 02:47 AM] Bass_SA: Sorry RB !!! I felt bad knifing you in the grass at your spawn point ...
[14 Hours Ago 02:51 AM] Bass_SA: Ciao guys ...
[13 Hours Ago 04:07 AM] rburley: that was seriously embarrasing, not the knifin but u ppl raping you should of heard the comments coming out of my squad

OK .. so at this stage there is no rule about spawnraping & everyone has their own view on it, but what I want to find out is if we, as a clan, should have a "guideline" on spawnraping or some such thing ?? - I don't want our clan to get a reputation like asault, where everyone curses them constantly, especially if they are being owned by toxic etc...

Also not to put one of our own clan members in a difficult/embarrasing position ..

The answer might well be No.., but is worth getting some views on ..

So ... ???

[rainy]

OK *taking a deep breath*

There are many views on spawn raping, and most of them differ. While I am not particularly fond of it, I also don't completely disapprove of it. It depends on the situation.

If a team is pushed back into a position where all they have is an uncappable spawn point, it is their own fault in a way. They let themselves get into that situation. What is the other team to do? Stand back and let the losing team cap some flags for courtesy? I dunno, man, I mean I end up on such a team quite often, and I usually don't blame the other team, unless there is some blatant teamstacking happening - which has been very rare since the banning of four Asault members (or I have just never been around when it happened, you tell me...) Plus, as you said, Bass, the other team managed to cap some other flags, so it can't have been that bad...

It is a different issue if the only flagpoint left is cappable. Raping that point is unfair gameplay and, in my opinion, borders on stat padding, because the winning team could just take that flag and get it over with - instead the flag is being raped to increase the kills and stats. While there is no official rule about this, I think this kind of raping is widely disliked.

Also there are people out there who go out of their way to spawn rape certain points, e.g. chopper or armor spawn points. The fight may be somewhere else completely, but these people hang around at these points and take out anyone heading for those vehicles. It is one thing to go to the enemy base and steal their assets, it is a different thing to just hang around there and keep them from using it - also borders on stat padding.

Our clan commandments say we play fair and square - abstaining from the latter kinds of rape should be self-explanatory. I don't think we need a specific rule for that.

Personally, I don't see the danger of us getting a reputation like Asault. Firstly we don't rank very high up, secondly most people out there know our way of playing, and that we are in it for the fun more than anything else. The Asault rep is based on their way of securing a win - stack all people to one side, grab all armor, choppers and jets and go rape. We don't do that, at least not last time I checked. Also, we don't state on our website that we are 'at this time the best clan in ZA', and we don't put our critics to embarrassment in an 'Asshole of the week' section.

As for not putting a clan member into a difficult/embarassing situation - I think we are all mature enough to get over that, if it happens (reminds himself of Saints sneaky chopper knifing... ). When I play on a team, I would expect everyone on that team to do the best for the team, not spare clan members or pals on the other team just so you don't embarass them. That would also not be fair on your team. If you have to be afraid of fighting against your clanmates, then the issue is your clanmates and their maturity, not your gameplay.

That's just my view

[TG]

What rainy said.

[w1z4rd]

ok like what happened? who raped who? I was playing and I seemed to have missed this all.

If you are attacking a point, and have your opponents pushed back around their flag. Frag away. Alls fair.

If you are a sniper sitting around watching a spawn point to get a better score. Well then, you need a rogering.

No one here needs to be told this. We're all kickass okes (otherwise we wouldnt be wg`s)

[NerdBoyZa]

I agree with comments made by everyone so far, and as distasteful as only having one uncappable flag left which has enemy choppers, jets, arty etc hovering around, there is noone, but your team to blame.

I have personally been on a side that had one last flag left, & the other team didn't take it, but instead sat there potting us as we spawned. No rule against it, but it leaves you wondering if you should just stop playing.

Same goes for people who cheat (I know it's not supposed to be possible to do it....but......). Different topic, but I really wonder sometimes if some of these people are not getting round the system somehow.

Depends on how badly you want to win I suppose.

[Brawler]

Well said rainy.

What was pissing me off was people waiting at the EXACT spawn points with choppers and tanks, I was dead before i could even see them. And I really didnt appreciate the whole " Hey RB get in the jet, we wont shoot you" - As soon as i took off i breathed a sigh of relief then, BOOM c4'd

BTW there were people raping at our base before half of the flags were captured just to set that straight.

Aniez i hav forgotten bout it so leav it.

WrG lost quite a few popularity points...

[rainy]

Well, it's not like we are that popular to start with. Not that much to lose there. Gotta set straight who did the raping and in which situation. I wasn't there, so I don't know what happened. Maybe the people who were actually involved can fill in the blanks.

[Brawler]

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Loose= when something is not tight, ie stoke has a screw loose.
Lose= when you have lost something

HHEHEHEHE

Are you kiddin, WrG is getting blady popular, how do you think all these new members heard about it. Aniez its over, los it

[sss]

i only said "hey take a jet" becuae i had put c4 on it about 4 minutes earlier and i was just waiting for someone to take the damn thing.... its the only person i actually killed while in the base

[Brawler]

what about flying around in the chopper?