Windows 10



More old school microsoft fun.

Thanks everyone for your help… I upgraded the RAM, I got the one I linked in the OP… However now Windows 10 says I have to re-activate, and it won’t activate anymore. I’m not sure if it’s the BIOS update or RAM change that caused it, but I had a chat with support, and called Microsoft too, none of which are able to help me. Saying hardware changes mean that you lose your product key if you upgrade…
For now


Games are the only reason I keep using Windows. Its days are numbered.


I reloaded Windows 7 after it told me it wouldn’t activate Windows 10. I was like “but’s it’s free?!?”. Apparently because I did a clean install after the bloody black screen of death/ conflict with my onboard AMD drivers, the clean install means it doesn’t detect you upgraded from a legit previous version of Windows. So you either buy a windows 10 key OR you reinstall your prev version of windows 7 and then redo the upgrade.



In the next month or so they will move the Insider beta to production, where it will accept Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 keys.
There are still major issues with activation.


Windows 10 to automatically download: part of Microsoft’s strategy to push the OS


and soon “push” becomes “shove”


Supposedly after you’ve upgraded from Win 7/8 at least once, it converts that key to a Win 10 key or gives you a new unique key that can be used to clean install Win 10 from then on out, but I haven’t tested it myself yet.

Besides some very old printer driver issues, haven’t had a lick of trouble with Win 10. All comes down to manufacturer driver support in the end I suppose.


The Windows Insider beta can now use Win 7 and Win 8.1 keys to install. It should make it to the public channel in a few months.


All you need to install is an older windows key. Once it activates however, MS stores your hardware/bios GUID on the activation servers. This ties your mainboard to your copy of windows. You wont need a key should you wish to reload/wipeout/format your PC with windows 10 (on the same mainboard)


Stay off my PC dammit :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Oh and this:


Dunno why you don’t like windows 10? I think it’s great. (oh and DX12)




Ironic, coming from a man whom I know has a Gmail account, an Android phone and probably a Google Authenticator app. I’ll just leave this tin foil hat here…


Gaan spring jy… Darn WrG Nepotism nonsense this :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

It’s the exact reason why i hate the idea of Windows 10 cause GoogleAppleMS already
took over my phone, now MS wants to do the same on my PC :angry:


Got news for you. MS took over your PC decades ago.


Not like this.


Microsoft will not support older Windows versions on upcoming PC Hardware

Yes, you need to read that line twice, let me rewrite it. Microsoft
will force Windows 10 on all new PC hardware. The company has changed
hardware requirements for supporting older versions of Windows, by only
supporting new silicon on Windows 10 moving forward.
Neowin reports this today after carefully reading a company blog;
While consumers are quicker to upgrade their hardware and
software, businesses are usually more conservative, and the process can
take years, the new Microsoft is not that patient. The company has
changed hardware requirements for supporting older versions of Windows, by only supporting new silicon on Windows 10 moving forward.

Compared to Windows 7 PC’s, Skylake when combined with Windows 10,
enables up to 30x better graphics and 3x the battery life – with the
unmatched security of Credential Guard utilizing silicon supported

That being said, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 will continue to
receive updates through January 14, 2020 and January 10, 2023
respectively, and Microsoft is offering to help enterprises in the
transition to Windows 10, by creating a list of “specific new Skylake
devices we will support to run Windows 7 and Windows 8.1” through July
17, 2017.

Going forward, as new silicon generations are introduced, they will
require the latest Windows platform at that time for support. This
enables us to focus on deep integration between Windows and the silicon,
while maintaining maximum reliability and compatibility with previous
generations of platform and silicon. For example, Windows 10 will be the
only supported Windows platform on Intel’s upcoming “Kaby Lake”
silicon, Qualcomm’s upcoming “8996” silicon, and AMD’s upcoming “Bristol
Ridge” silicon.

Even though the PC market is in decline, the PC is still alive and kicking, and remains relevant due to evolving categories and innovative new features, as we’ve seen at this year’s CES and Microsoft’s"Windows 10 Devices" event last October.

This has been on the
cards for some years. The integration of hardware and software means they
effectively have you by the goolies. On one hand it sounds great because it
substantially improves security (although that is offset by inherent weaknesses
in the microsoft architecture). The main effect is that ms then controls your
machine. I suspect that MS is going to make updates more awkward for win 7
& 8 users and probably deliberately slow the system. I strongly suspect
that is what they did with XP as the last updates slowed the system

Some extra lite reading:

Push back harder:

And the list continues


oh boy, here comes the pickets. blah blah hate MS …


I think it’s just someone trying to drum up bad press. I really don’t expect companies to develop drivers etc for old operating systems… so why should they expect microsoft to? Especially since older OS’s tend to get officially phased out anyway.

It’s a stupid article and the author should get a slap upside the head.


LOL :joy:

Ps. Have you guys seen this article, is this nonsense or does\can it happen ?